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I wonder why religious conservatives are mostly synonymous with capitalism supporters ? I mean arent most religions inherently socialistic ? What makes conservatives support capitalism , despite not being among the rich?

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[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 157 points 1 year ago

Fox News. Televangelists. Trump.

Religion can be a very positive tool to bring communities together and support one another, but capitalism means exploitation, and nothing's easier to exploit than blind faith.

[-] jungekatz@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

I wonder why would a person keep a rich persons interest over their own ? Free or affordable healthcare and college would be such a great help , and while the planet can support food and housing for all , many are deliberately kept hungry and homeless and that is rooted in corporate greed most of the times . Gulliblity at another level!

[-] 007v2@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

The guise that they will someday be the one with the boot, they don’t wanna miss their chance be be the very boot they lick. Propaganda is a powerful tool.

[-] jungekatz@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I mean I know people who think that elon is making them rich coz their tesla shares jumped, and at the same time they dont want college to be affordable because they paid for it in whole ( tho these ppl are mostly boomers and older gen)

[-] dmonzel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I wonder why would a person keep a rich persons interest over their own ?

There's no such thing as a poor Republican voter, just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.

[-] jungekatz@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Omg 😂😂😅

[-] infectoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Temporarily embarrassed billionaires now.

[-] gramathy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They get told the current hierarchy is gods will and they’re not allowed to subvert that

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 28 points 1 year ago

I agree with the other two. But I think it's disingenuous to say Trump, because this behavior has existed since long before Trump was relevant in politics.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago

True. He's more a symptom than a cause. He certainly isn't helping.

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 5 points 1 year ago

It also existed since long before Fox News and even Televangelists

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

While I 100% agree with you, I think you listed the symptoms rather than the root cause. Religious people have been supporting the Republican party well... religiously since as long as I can remember, well before Trump and Fox News.

I think it's something that the Republican party has specifically built their messaging around and then those things have grown out of it as a result. Someone posted a good article the other day about how politicians supporting segregation were able to manufacture a wedge issue (abortion) in the 70s to capture the religious vote, who didn't see it as a religious issue until they were basically told it was.

[-] krayj@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Religion has been sucking the teet of conservative politics for a LOT longer than Fox News, Televangelist, and Trump have been around.

It goes far deeper and is way more fundamental than those things.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree completely, but on the surface, those are the three biggest modern contributors.

A lot of people's "sincerely held" beliefs are only skin-deep, so surface-level agitators and misinformation peddlers do have a lot of power in our society. If they ceased to exist, I suspect a lot of the hatred and vitriol their followers spew would cease, as well - assuming an equally-evil replacement didn't immediately rise.

A lot of people are stuck in their stale echo chambers, and just getting a breath of fresh air could do them wonders.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Trump is a symptom, not a cause.

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

He's a bit of both, I'd say.

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