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[-] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago

Age verification for pornography has something like a 70% approval rating. It’s not a religious extremism issue, it’s a “normies don’t want or care about their freedoms issue”.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 46 points 2 years ago

The concept is not terrible, the implementation is. Passing this law with no secure way of proving identity is where it’s clearly just a Christo-fascist power move.

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago

I think a law verifying your age over the internet inherently breaks the idea of a free internet, of which we are already seeing degradation of by Google and DRM/web integrity anyways.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't see how it doesn't violate free speech. Imagine needing the government's permission to talk to someone?

Edit: forgot a word

[-] Sylver@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

I agree. Even internet security protocols are at risk, and the dinosaurs responsible for writing laws don’t understand basic encryption let alone the idea that it is 100% a needed concept in a free, fair, and just society.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

There are already age limitations that are constitutional. You can’t run for office, buy alcohol, drive a car etc.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

That's not speech. You can age limit things, but not on speech. Beyond that, the limitations on speech have to meet certain conditions where it's in the publics best interest and doesn't put too much burden on the public.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Restricting access to explicit material is the same as restricting alcohol or tobacco.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tobacco is not speech.

Edit: plus one is an economic regulation .The other is not. Like, you can smoke tobacco at really any age. Just can buy it at any age.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago
[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

You're still ignoring my first point which is the much more important distinction. It's not speech.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

It’s not a free speech issue.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

The literal lawsuit says otherwise. It's the first claim they wrote.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I have my doubts it’ll succeed on free speech arguments alone.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I have my doubts that people should comment on things they clearly haven't read, but here we are.

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