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[-] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Agreed with your reasons, but she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations. I wanted to share a point of view that I think is rarely shared in gaming communities.
I don't follow YouTube drama much, so I don't know who Asmongold is.

The reason I ended up there is because I recently started playing Oblivion, and saw her videos mentioned.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 23 hours ago

she made points I have never heard about that I found interesting, like disappearing of some femininity aspects to awkwardly try to avoid sexism accusations.

These are very common talking points of gamer gate bigots. It's a giant red flag, because the people who talk about it are bigots

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Pretty prejudiced take. Like in the literal sense of the word.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 13 hours ago

She shouts out a racist who was banned from twitch for bigotry, so I'd say it's pretty spot on as a red flag.

[-] oce@jlai.lu -5 points 20 hours ago

I think you may have a a specific experience that makes this very common for you. I personally don't interact with those subjects much, so I didn't know. Thank you for sharing your view.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 20 hours ago

Gamergate is not a very specific circumstance. It was a widespread harassment campaign involving the entire industry. This is a follow on from that movement, and any game that releases a female protagonist that isn't soft and demure gets active push back from this group.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 23 hours ago

disappearing of some femininity aspects

Can you describe some of those aspects that have been disappearing?

[-] telllos@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago

Reminds me that time gamer discovered girls have body hair because of Aloy.

[-] weker01@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

She as a woman of course also has no idea what femininity is and that women have body hair.

[-] oce@jlai.lu -5 points 20 hours ago

I think it's better to check the source by yourself since it appears to be more sensitive than I expected.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 9 hours ago

Idk, it's sounds like you agreed with this point and I'm curious what your opinion was about it.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 2 hours ago

As I said, most of the points made in the video I didn't think about before, and I find it interesting to know other reasons why people play old games or are patient gamers, that's why I shared it here. I think the person is simply expressing her taste, maybe it's traditional stereotypes for some people, but you can't decide of your tastes, I didn't find it hateful. Now people who defend trans people found this video offensive, which I was miles away from expecting, and many people decided to jump on this wagon and decided this is a hateful post based on prior comments without watching the video. Also as I said other places, I am not knowledgeable in trans defense, so maybe it's possible they are correct.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 hour ago

Still waiting for the lost feminity you mentioned about.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 21 hours ago

I didn’t watch the video and probably never will, simply because I’ve watched too many and I hate that topic so much I spend the time I used to watch YouTube now on playing games.

I have played a particular western made game for the first time and finished it about a week ago. Without spoilering the massive thing that happens, I try to be as generic as possible: I have not played a single western made game in the last 5 years where the hero physically saves a girl, only to be saved by her emotionally.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago

I'm trying to think of any game I played that was like that. You have some examples (western or not, old or not) on your mind?

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Kingdom Hearts would be one, FF9 another one, I think you could count NieR automata as well

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

I think that was too vague. Also, I'm not real clear if that's good or bad.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

If I would be any less vague, it would be like "when Luke found out he kissed his sister shortly before facing his father for the final time"

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