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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, make the employers compete against UBI. Can you pay me more to work than the government pays me to sit on my ass?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Makes me wonder if absolutely shitty jobs like janitorial work or garbage collection or working in sewers would go from being minimumally paid to being super high paying jobs if there was UBI, because it would become the only way to actually attract (a majority) people to the work. Or if it would just force robotics to get better specifically for these kinds of jobs humans don't want to do.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

Both, ideally. Though UBI is still just a bandaid on the gushing wound that is capitalism; without radically correcting the housing market landleeches will just raise rents by the exact amount of UBI and we'll be in the exact same situation.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 month ago

An actually good UBI system would also include shit in the verbiage of the law to prevent that.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah when mass unemployment hit with the pandemic, we were shown exactly how insufficient most if not all states' unemployment benefits were for actually living on. I think having some kind of voucher system where this is one week's groceries, one month's rent, etc., would work, but of course they're going to find a way to game whatever we come up with. Saying "but they'll find loopholes" isn't a reason not to do the first step. That's letting perfection get in the way of progress, and it's pretty much the entire corpo pol playbook.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wonder if UBI is ever going to happen as a side-effect of corporate greed. Like, you want employees? Well, too bad, I've hired all of them. With non-compete clauses, no less. And I've spammed all job hunting sites so that 99% of resumes phone numbers go to my sales reps who will swarm your number if you ever dare to post a job listing yourself. So, no way around me. Now, I could subcontract you a few, but it is going to cost you big bucks since I have to make a profit somehow with most them sitting on their asses with minimum wage.

This is basically what happened with the housing market(at least 'round here), and has occurred on smaller scale in the IT sector. Not sure if that'd ever be possible in the general market with the sheer amount of money required to pull this off. Especially as humans, unlike houses, are unlikely to become an appreciating resource without general population decline.

Feel free to throw a wrench in this theory, though. I don't really want to live in a world where my livelihood depends on some real estate fucks.

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