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"They..they..they..found ballots.."
And that's when I stopped watching.
That was enough crazy stupid for me.
Yeah, what kind of reporter/interviewer doesn't immediately follow up with:
Who is "They?"
Where did "they" find these ballots?
Whose ballots were they? Surely they have names on them??
After "they" found them, what did "they" do with them? Surely they would parade this proof around on the news circuits or put them on display somewhere since it's supposedly a corner stone of their narrative?
No?
Interesting. End of interview. Stop giving these jerkoff whackjobs a platform.
It is important that we understand these people, who are our family and neighbours. This isn't a person who is seeking a "platform". Labeling them "jerkoff whackjobs" is emotionally gratifying, but it doesn't give you useful insight. Indeed, it's a way of turning off your brain and not thinking deeply about it. It's a defense mechanism against things that are disturbing and difficult to understand and process.
These people are beyond help, beyond seeing the light and becoming normal humans again.
They look out at the world, the mass of other humans, and they say "You aren't human because I haven't given you that right." I'm ready for the rest of the world to collectively say "No, you." to these dumbfucks.
I don't need more insight into who they are, they've told us. There's no more need for further understanding. They'd burn it all down to be in charge of the ashes and people like you want to talk it out with them.
The time is coming to remove the science deniers from positions of power if the rest of us want to SURVIVE. Let alone enjoy our time here.
Personally, I don't care what happens to them. They're evil and evil should be wiped from the world.
I'm not actually interested in understanding these people so much as I am interested in getting them treatment. "Whackadoo" stops all critical thought, but I'd only be the last person in the room to do so, and I don't need the futile stress of any other course of action.
In all fairness I choose not to 'understand' televangelists, people who lose their house on slots or the home shopping network, anyone in a cult, anyone waving a sign on a street corner, or fascists. They just need correction, from one programme or another.
I "understand" that they are opting out of almost ALL of the clauses in our shared social contract.
Do they understand the effects of this opt out? How the paradox of tolerance resolves for people who've literally had enough and see the opt out for what it is?
Because, for lots of us, once you're out like that, you're really out.
It's also important to remember that doubling down on your beliefs in the face of criticism is also just a defense mechanism. We'll never change minds by being aggressive. I'm not saying there's never a place for attacking, but empathy in one on one scenarios is what's really needed to begin to have people change their opinions at all.
Ballots don't have names on them. Otherwise, yeah, all questions that should have been asked.
Ballots don't have names on them? How the fuck do they verify that it's 1 vote per person then? Mail-in ballots sure as fuck have names on them.
I'm not trying to be judgemental but I am curious have you never voted in person in the US?
Actually better question which country do you live in?
I don't answer identifying questions.
Then you'll just need to go with what others have responded with.
Mail-ins have a name on the outside of the envelope, not on the ballot itself. In person, I believe the standard practice is to check-in in some way, providing a record that this specific person voted, but not their specific choices. The specifics will vary by state, but that's the gist.
Last time I voted in texas I walked in to the local library. Was greeted asking for id, dont know what was typed into the computer, was handed a paper with a number on it, went to booth and put number in, voted, and then collected my I voted sticker and left. I would imagine they connected my name to the number and have a database of everyone.
The number is connected to the ballot, but not your name. It's a system to verify the registrar issued the ballot, not to track individual votes.
That makes sense
They have a list of people that are registered to vote. They mark off the people on the list who have voted so they can't vote twice. But when the person actually votes it's done outside the sight of anyone else (sometimes behind a curtain) so no one knows who they voted for.
There was a time when there were gangs outside of polling stations that would beat the shit out of people that didn't vote how they wanted. And considering how insane the MAGAs are, it's not too improbable this kind of thing could happen again if it weren't for having a secret ballot system.