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this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2024
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Because she is moaning about a certain gender's privilege and the argument is that the limitation that leads to this privilege is entirely inflicted by the presumed limited gender?
But that is not relevant to whether or not it is an issue. I feel like this is implies that the victims are at fault.
The people who make it a problem to wear the same dress twice are at fault. #NotAllWomen #NoMenAtAll
The point is that when the phrase "male privilege" is used, it carries the implication that the patriarchy is responsible. But in this particular case, women have 100% of the power to make the problem go away and men have 0%. Calling it "male privilege" is counterproductive if you actually want to solve the problem rather than just complain about it.
Your comment betrays deep ignorance both on the matter of privilege and on the responsibility.
And your comment lacks anything of substance that could point me in the right direction if you were right.
Yeah, you want me to explain you quite complicated concepts in a single comment, while using all the terminology wrong, and doing zero work yourself.
Patriarchy isn't just "men are in charge of everything", women aren't "in power of changing the social norms", responsibility isn't just "i did something bad and need to fix that", and privilege means something completely different from whatever you're implying there.
To elaborate on that I would have to write paragraphs upon paragraphs for each of them, and I'm just not doing that. Since we're already here, I don't need to teach you how to look what the words mean beyond the basic five words definition, so I encourage you to do just that.
If you can't explain something in simple terms, that means you don't understand it yourself. Which is why you're being so needlessly aggressive and throwing accusations in the first place. It's because you have such a tenuous grasp on your own theoretical framework that you feel threatened by anyone displaying an opinion that seems to contradict it. You don't care about righting wrongs, about teaching or even about learning yourself. You only care about protecting your own fragile worldview.
To remedy this, I suggest you open yourself more to diverging opinions - not really in order to change your mind on anything in particular, but because if you only reinforce your current beliefs you'll miss the forest for the trees. You can actually learn more about your own ideology by studying others and contrasting them.
There, one simple paragraph explaining the problem in terms even a child could understand and another simple paragraph suggesting an actionable solution to that problem, all devoid of aggression and without fake quotations. This is how an adult deals with a misinformed opinion online. I hope this example serves you well in the future.
If the victims are the gender without the privilege (as the woman in OP suggests) and the victims are the same group of people who are making individuals in the group feel bad for wearing the same dress twice (as OP suggests) then the victims, as a group, are at fault, it seems to me.
Is an individual woman who wants to wear a dress again at fault? No, but it ain't a male privilege issue. It's a culture among women issue.
The woman in OP seems to be going for "this is yet another way the patriarchy is keeping us down" or similar vibe, and although I usually agree with those sorts of assessments and think toxic masculinity is bad for everyone of any gender, this is definitely an own-goal by women.
Insert obi wan kenobi "you have done that yourself" meme here.
Edit: This also assumes I accept the premise put forth by the woman in OP. Based on things I hear (and don't hear) from my wife and other women in my life, I'm skeptical that the woman in OP is expressing a universal, or even nearly-universal, truth about whether women can wear an outfit twice.
Just because woman are doing it doesnt mean it is not the patriachy, you can support and uphold the patriarchy as a woman.
Very true. And if you can explain how that is true here, I'm happy to hear it. Also please see my edit, which may not change your response. I did add a little more.
Gonna get to it on the Weekend. Busy days...