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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

They have bargaining power because they are the only people willing to vote for this issue.

If only these people will change their vote for it they get to decide.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

"Bargaining power" in voting is determined by actual intent and impact. The math says they don't have much of any, especially if this is the single issue they are trying to "bargain" over.

Even if 100% of the less than 2% of their entire group votes against Harris, you'd have to be betting that the other groups aren't coming out in force FOR Harris, which seems to absolutely be the case right now. Facts are that maybe only 50% of that group will vote against her, which is about where the Dems are at anyway with the larger voting blocks in MI.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

It doesn't matter who wins. What matters is the number of voters not on the duopoly. That will signal how many voters there are to earn for politicians to not support Israel.

Politicians would be crazy to stop supporting Israel if it is always a winning move.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Well then that's a losing battle if that's your understanding of it.

There are double the number of US Jewish than Muslim, and if you're asserting this is all about a flex for alliances and whatnot based solely on religions versus anything, the numbers aren't there for Muslims trying said flex.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

The people I know who are most stridently against the genocide are Jews. Don't play into antisemetic tropes that Jewish people are automatically supportive of Israel no matter what sins it commits.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

It wasn't my assertion. I was responding to someone else who seems to think that's the way things work though.

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