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Should Climate Protesters Be Less Annoying?
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They tried being acceptable, and nobody listens. Now they are being unacceptable, and still nobody listens.
The US and EU have both shifted significantly towards decarbonization. It's not fast enough, but it's getting started.
So what should they do?
I don't have the answer to that question.
You ever see The Last Starfighter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLN36pgwS5o
Get better PR
Oh and maybe vote.
Imo anyone who complains about anything in a democratic nation but won't vote deserves to be ignored.
In a lot of places, the authorities make it hard for people who aren't living in right-wing areas to vote Things like limiting the number of poll workers effectively cap the number of votes from some areas, even though more voters there want to vote.
Yeah, I'm talking about the ones who can't be assed to vote, not the ones who are prevented from voting
They look the same in a lot of cases. Make it hard to vote, tell people they'll need to take time off from work, stand for hours in line, or find a polling place that's new and not announced until just before the day of the vote, and people won't bother to try.
Make it easy to vote, and a lot more people do.
There's a massive gap between the disenfranchisement happening in the South and other parts of the country, and people who without incredible effort can vote, but don't.
You're talking about "a lot of cases", sure, whatever, I'm talking about "the rest of the cases". Which is a lot, maybe even a majority, of the massive numbers of environmentalists who don't vote.
It's not that they can't, it's not that they're suppressed, these people just DON'T.
This is what they write on the website you linked to:
All in all there are about 139,398,590 environmentalists in the USA (41% of Americans identify themselves as "environmentalists").
How do you know that climate protestors aren't in the big group of environmentalists who vote?
Fine. Let me rephrase. Get other "environmentalists" to vote. Organize voting drives. Do campaigns. Fund candidates. Not this silly shit.
Why do you think specifically climate protestors don't vote?
Statistics don't lie.
https://environment.harvard.edu/news/how-do-you-get-environmentalists-actually-vote
For one, the article you link to is about Americans. At least the ones in the photo are not Americans, that was in UK.
Additionally, this "Environmental Voter Project" is about everyone who is interested in a greener politics. It's not about climate protestors.