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[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 15 hours ago

The choice cannot be so single issue. Donald Trump is doing everything he can to subvert the election process, and will try to upend it entirely if he can. Harris is a disappointing choice at best, downright revolting at worst, but she respects the election process. Under Harris, I have a chance to continue voting third party in local elections and trying to change the system. Under Trump, not only is my life and the life of many other Americans in danger, but this may very well be the last time I ever get to vote.

The choice cannot be so black and white. The Democrats have always been neo-libs that are okay with bombing third world countries for imperialist reasons. However, in this election, they're the ones we have the best chance of voting again under and continuing to try to change the system. I will not be so short sighted as to believe the average American is going to do anything but vote Biden or Harris, so making an ideological stand is doing nothing but wasting my opportunity to stop total fascism from removing the ability to make this country better in the future.

Even if I believed Trump and Harris would be identical on the issue of Gaza, when I strongly believe Trump will accelerate the genocide, I still have to vote Harris in order to retain the ability to vote in the future and secure the current (distasteful) state of our democracy so it can be improved in the future.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

still have to vote Harris in order to retain the ability to vote in the future and secure the current (distasteful) state of our democracy so it can be improved in the future.

My honest feeling, and this is just speculation, but it seemed like it was easier to organize large protest movements under trump than under Biden. Once Biden got into office all the liberals stopped supporting protest and started defending the status quo.

[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 hours ago

I doubt it will be as easy in a fascist police state.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago
  1. America is a fascist police state right now

  2. Police reaction to protests was about the same under both trump and Biden

[-] erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

America is not a fascist state. Elements of fascism are baked into the system and continue to creep out of the woodwork, but let's not wear our the significance of fascism by equating the modern United States to Nazi Germany. Hyperbole at best.

And yes, police are a serious problem in the U.S., but Trump wants to give them total leeway and freedom to enact "one day of violence" and just take out political dissidents and undesirables. They are just not the same and acting like they are is delusional at best and intentionally muddying the water at worst.

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