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[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago

I don't want to blame you for a difference in physical abilities that may exist, but are you looking at the same meme as me?

A trolley problem format meme depicts the genocide of Palestinians on one track and the false equivalence of genocide to LGBT, BLM, and abortion on the other track.

What about simply "not actively getting worse"?

Who says it's not getting worse? A fellow Harris supporter celebrating "history" in Kalamazoo, where the gap between black and white homeownership is at its worst level in 50 years?:

https://lemmy.world/post/21294216

Why would they be bad on abortion and BLM just because they are bad on this issue?

I should explain why Democrats who endorse a genocide of brown people might be bad on BLM??

[-] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 34 minutes ago

A trolley problem format meme depicts the genocide of Palestinians on one track and the false equivalence of genocide to LGBT, BLM, and abortion on the other track.

It's not a false equivalence, there is no equivalence argued for in the meme. It points out that genocide in Gaza will happen on either track, but only one of them will actively make things worse for other groups I care about also. It's not calling them equivalent, in fact it's arguing they are not equivalent which is why we have a moral obligation to keep It off the track with more people on it. At best, the outcome for Gaza is equivalent, but the outcome for others is not.

Who says it's not getting worse?

Are you delusional enough to think that Trump and Harris will have identical outcomes for the other groups listed? Even if Harris doesn't "fix" those issues, preventing them from getting worse is better than allowing them to get worse. No improvement on abortion access is objectively better than a national abortion ban or anything else Trump (or really, the Heritage Foundation) wants.

I should explain why Democrats who endorse a genocide of brown people might be bad on BLM??

Ah yes, because Harris isn't as anti genocide as we want, it's totally logical to assume she would be in favor of black people dying more at the hands of police. Yes, that totally follows. And definitely the best option to improve policing is to let Trump be in charge. He will totally not work to make things worse.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

You believe Harris has somehow preserved abortion rights and that others are delusional?

Even if Harris doesn't "fix" those issues, preventing them from getting worse is better than allowing them to get worse. No improvement on abortion access is objectively better

A person who made their career out of imprisoning mostly black and brown men should be somehow seen as strongly against "black people dying more at the hands of police"?

[-] Whattrees@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 minutes ago

I love that you cut off the quote mid sentence, conveniently leaving out the part that would have answered your dumbass question. No improvement to abortion access is objectively better than working to make things worse. If those are the only two options, we all have a moral obligation to keep things from getting worse.

You're the one who implied it was the Dems fault because it happened while they were in power. Harris isn't president and so couldn't have done anything either way for abortion. But she certainly hasn't made them worse and is not in favor of making abortion access more difficult. Trump, on the other hand, will actively work to make them worse.

I'm sorry, what is Harris' stated position in BLM vs Trump's? Which one of them said "please don't be too nice" to them while talking to cops about suspects? Which one of them sent DHS to black-bag protestors during BLM again?

this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2024
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