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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 weeks ago

The problem is that there's only really two ecosystems: Google and Apple. If there was more competition, maybe it would be fine if users opt-in to a closed ecosystem, but if there's only two options, there's a strong incentive from both parties to collude to prevent new competitors.

That said, I'm similar to you, I use GrapheneOS as well and have only owned the one Apple device (also iPod touch), and I largely avoid both ecosystems. However, going a third way definitely has significant repurcussions, as in I can't use many apps because they require Google's ecosystem to function.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for your input! Is that what's happening here, though?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

Not sure, I'm not a lawyer and haven't investigated either party to know for sure. But what I do see is both the App Store and Play Store using "security" as an excuse to lock apps to their respective ecosystems. So whether there's overt collusion is anyone's guess, but they both seem to be playing with a similar set of cards.

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

Oh damn, is Google moving toward not allowing apps to be installed from outside the Play Store?

Regardless, I see now how it's a problem; if we let Apple do it, and then Google decides to too, we're fucked, and it would then be unfair to not let Google do it since the precedent was set by allowing Apple to

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago

They've had the "this app might be malware" or whatever nonsense for ages, and I think they've stepped it up a bit. That won't stop power users, but it does chill average users and was a big reason Epic Games sued despite having the ability already to offer a sideloadable app.

And yeah, it's all about precedent. Microsoft has been trying to go this route for a while as well, and every time they do, it's always "security" as the excuse for why it needs to be that way.

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