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The friend who radicalized me is now begging me to vote for Harris (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago by bubbalu@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours' long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It's really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist 'nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies' tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

kitty-birthday-sad

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

I sense that many here are probably quite new to the whole socialism/communism thing. It’s sometimes discouraging to think that in another 10-20 years, probably half of your comrades would be fighting you on the other side of the struggle.

This was true for every single revolution (the most tragic example being the Irish Revolution), but as they say: the struggle continues.

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

the Irish Revolution

assume you mean the easter rising? yea i get sad about the civil war most days but i would say in terms of historical knock-on effects / timelines diverging the german revolution is the most tragic.