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[-] Mango@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

What's that got to do with Linux? That's a Photoshop or 3dsMax problem. There's nothing about Linux getting in the way. It's Adobe telling you no. Your dependence on Adobe isn't a Linux problem.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

The whole UX of using a computer is a collaborative project between hardware, os, and apps (and maybe networks). Any friction in that process is born in part by both sides.

I know what you are saying, and fuck Adobe, but the friction of Adobe products not working well on Linux is because Linux isn't made to work well with corporate driven drm software. Unlike Microsoft, the Linux foundation isn't likely to make a backroom deal to ensure that Linux will be developed in a way to keep their drm private and help them strip the rights of their users.

That leads to friction it is Linuxs fault for not accepting Adobes bs here. As it is also Adobes fault for sacrificing technical excellence in lu of artificial scarcity.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

You're wrong. It's not collaborative. It's competitive. Only open source is collaborative. There doesn't need to be any secrets or DRM. That shit is what's wrong. Worse than wrong, it's bad.

Linux isn't a person. It "accepts" literally anything. Nobody needs to accept Adobe's BS. The industry is dragged down by them, not propped up.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If your OS is competing instead of collaborating with the hardware and apps, that's gonna be a bad experience.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Welcome to Apple and Microsoft. It's a bad experience, but you'll pay because all your friends are jumping off the same bridge.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

There are frenemies in the some markets for sure. But no "the marketplace" is a collaborative thing, corporations are collaborative ventures, etc

Almost every human experience is marked by systems of collaboration, even if competition is also allowed within that system.

Also agreed, and again fuck Adobe.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I get that a lot of these groups gotta work together, but there's just way too damn much leverage bullshit going on. Things could be so much better with a totally open source world. Restricting copying and features that companies don't want us to have just kills the romance of digital goods being infinitely copyable.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

No doubt. The gap between designers and non technical users is a collaborative space that doesn't seem to me meet by foss but does seem meet by companies like Adobe using the massive amount of feedback sources and teams of designer does meet.

I, a "technical" user, find FOSS UX way better to me, but I can read and underatand issues on git, make merge requests, and even read some code to grasp how something should be working. That UX for shaping the actual program UX doesn't work for the "non-technical" crowd.

Sorry if I'm just ranting now lol, it's just something I keep trying to iterate when these issues pop up, hoping something comes up with a good solution.

So far it's education (grow the technical user base and bam better UX for FOSS!), commercial support and have support feedback for users, and maybe adaptive UXs using some kind ml feedback mechanism.

Honestly though we are doing the former and money is the limit to success (why pay for free? Is a hard sell for a product that isn't quite what someone wants yet).

The latter I just haven't seen a clean enough setup to start hacking with myself, and honestly means getting the metric collection for a lot of FOSS apps squared up first.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That means it won't argue in bad faith

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

What are you talking about?

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