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TO THE ADMINS: Read this thread and give me one good reason why federating with toxic, propaganda spreading tankie loons is a good idea.

No one wants those fucks, or the alt right dipshits for that matter, around, and they're spreading blatant lies, yet I see they are here. Does lemm.ee only care about boosting its numbers and is willing to sink to new lows to do it, I wonder? 🤔

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[-] Ignacio@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have enough luck to have joint instances that don't federate with fascists, being they red or not. However, when one of those instances decide to federate with them (not going to happen, but let's pretend), I'll protest like you're doing. And if it doesn't work, I'll go to a more inclusive instance.

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that a fascist is not the same thing as a communist. But they're equally despicable.

[-] misk@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that a fascist is not the same thing as a communist. But they're equally despicable.

Fascism is inherently anti-democratic, communism isn't. I know communism is a shorthand for stalinism, maoism and other totalitarian ideologies that use socialist facade (similar to national socialism) but it's worth to make an effort not to discredit the whole idea.

[-] Ignacio@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, you're right. Sometimes I think that communism is merely an economic system. But thinking about Stalin, Mao and Il-Sung, whose communist developments where economic, social, democratic and whatnot, it's sometimes hard to discriminate the noise from the useful information too.

Besides, I can't understand why communists / tankies are so prone to support dictators. Dictatorship is not exclusive to communism, even capitalism had and has some kind of dictatorships: Hungary, Belarus...

[-] tastysnacks@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I think capitalism leans into the human trait that wants power. I think communism leans into the human trait that wants to be taken care of. That's a little off, but you get the idea. In both dictatorship is possible but capitalism has more infighting.

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