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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

~~What the hell are you talking about? I push the power button every single day on my PC. I'm aware that wake on LAN is a thing, but your average computer user doesn't utilize that feature. And only a psychopath who doesn't care about their power bill nor the environment would leave their PC running 24/7.~~

Edit: Thanks for the insight. You were right, I was wrong. My bad.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 day ago

The power draw of these things when sleeping is negligible. They’re basically off, so there’s no real need to shut them down with any regularity.

I can use my MacBook for a whole day and still have half the battery left. Their power efficiency is genuinely remarkable.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is correct, but still, fuck apple. What if I just prefer to turn my computer off instead of putting it into sleep mode? And how exactly am I supposed to wake up my computer from sleep if the power button is inaccessible? I know macs can be configured to wake up on keyboard/mouse activity, but that makes them too easy to wake up on accident.

[-] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

A key on the keyboard turns it on afaik. You don’t need to press the power button.

And how exactly am I supposed to wake up my computer from sleep if the power button is inaccessible?

Poke your finger under the corner and push up. It doesn't take a rocket surgen to figure out how they want you to hit this button. You can tell from their promo images that they designed the base to make the computer sit up enough for this.

I know macs can be configured to wake up on keyboard/mouse activity, but that makes them too easy to wake up on accident.

Why does it matter? It's just gonna go back to sleep in 30 seconds if you don't mess with it.

[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 day ago

It would be annoying, but to be fair, it's the Mac Mini, which is small and easy to pick up. I would guess you could just tip the corner up to press the button.

I still think it's a dumb design. It's going to confuse everyday users

[-] renzev@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

It’s going to confuse everyday users

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I believe this is the intention. I think big companies deliberately put in confusing and bad design to "test the waters" and see if people will still buy their products. It's the same with the apple mouse charging on the bottom, or why companies keep making their logos uglier with each iteration. It's a psy-op to condition the masses into accepting worse products without complaining.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

You know this thing is tiny, right? It’ll be shockingly easy to pick up and press the button. Even with cables hanging out of it.

I use a 2014 mini with all cables hanging out the back, and it’s really easy to pick up.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can wake a Mac by clicking the mouse or hitting literally any of the hundred+ buttons on the keyboard.

…also this power button is dumb.

[-] MoonSmile@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Thats the thing i have never turned off a mac in my entire life… always sleep and wake

[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I should have considered that I was posting this comment to Lemmy before posting it.

Maybe you push the dedicated power button on your computer’s case everyday but I’m very confident most users of any computer do not. And in that regard I’m including all computers - wearable, handheld, and laptops. We’re well past the age where most users feel the need to fully shutdown and boot their computers everyday, AND there are plenty of software buttons and even some physical keyboard buttons for shutting down a computer so I mean it when I say that I think most computer case’s power buttons go untouched for definitely days and possibly weeks at a time.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Why need Wake on LAN when basically any USB input device can take your computer out of sleep?

[-] eyeon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The average user uses sleep mode and wakes from sleep. Sleep mode should be under 10w, or around $1/mo.

[-] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Sleep mode on the mini < 0.5W

[-] derek@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

laughs in home lab

Not that I'd buy it but, if I did, that power button might get used twice a year. Likely less since I wouldn't be able to upgrade or maintenance its hardware.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, if you have a home lab setup (or even a simple server), you're not the average computer user.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Average Windows user L

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