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Is there any flavor of libertarianism that even in theory makes sense? I lump libertarians together which I guess is unfair but I only talk to them online and they always seem to so similar however they define themselves with nuance. I find them to be ridiculous, obnoxious, and selfish.

For example - at Bluesky I just had an argument with a self-described socio-libertarian who was against "disruptive" protests against climate change. The character limit at Bluesky makes an actual discussion pointless in a situation like this. But they were an asshole anyway so that limit did me a favor. And I didn't need to her some kind of fantastical thinking about the magic of the free market solving climate change.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about libertarian socialism...

Libertarian socialism

Libertarian socialism is an anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist political current that emphasises self-governance and workers' self-management. It is contrasted from other forms of socialism by its rejection of state ownership and from other forms of libertarianism by its rejection of private property. Broadly defined, it includes schools of both anarchism and Marxism, as well as other tendencies that oppose the state and capitalism.

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[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 12 points 21 hours ago

"Cops are racist so let's let motorists get away with even more dangerous things" is certainly a take I haven't heard before I'll give you that.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago

The motorists are getting away with more dangerous things already. It pisses me off seeing the white guy speed off going 90 in a 65, putting all of us in danger, while a POC mom gets pulled over for a broken tail light or something like that.

The cops we have don't exist to serve or protect us.

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 10 points 20 hours ago

Yeah but that's an issue with policing in America, not speed limits

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

Agree. In the future I want speed enforced through things other than cops. I want less reasons to cops exist so that we can replace them with community defense teams or some other proletarian form of keeping us safe.

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 hours ago

I tried to come up with a reply to this that wasn't insulting and I failed. This is all I've got:

This is a very silly thing to say.

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 5 points 20 hours ago

See what I said instead of being like the person who told him to 'go back to reddit'

He clearly prefaced this with an acknowledgement people might not agree, I don't see what good mocking does

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

I agree that mocking doesn't help and that your reply is much better, but I honestly felt that was pointing out the obvious to the level of it being insulting to even suggest a person wasn't aware of that.

I'll give it more of a think.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago

OK you win. I'm dumb

What makes it silly?

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago

I didn't say you're dumb, just that what you said was silly. Smart people can say silly things.

Cops being racist doesn't mean everything cops do should be stopped, just that cops shouldn't be racist(or rather, racist cops should be stopped from being that). Does your complaint also apply to any other laws that are enforced differently based on race? Because that's all of them and I doubt you want to relax every single law.

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