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Am I a real working person?
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I'm so fucking sick of this discussion.
If your income is in the form of dividends, stock selling, or collecting rent money, you're not a worker.
If you work as an employee for a company, and are also a landlord on the side, then yes you are a worker. But you are a worker because of the working for a company part, not the landlord part.
End of discussion.
Now let's look at a paragraph from this dog shit article, breaking it up into points...
And? Nobody ever said investment bankers or lawyers weren't workers. They work for companies and are paid.
Ok? What does this have to do with assessing whether someone is a worker or not?
When did the government or anybody ever say that anyone with a decent salary isn't a worker?
I don't even know what to say about this. Are they unrelatedly complaining about sex in a TV programme, or do they genuinely think Labour's view on who counts as a worker comes down to how often that person has sex and how many people they have sex with?
It's honestly embarrassing that FT even published this. Under a fucking £39 per month paywall too.
It is such a stupid discussion because there are many people that work in industries that are in high demand and thus get very high wages. But that's the point, they get a wage, thus are a worker.
It's the Tories that started trying to muddy the waters about this because they're angry about something, although God knows what, because they appear to be raging against the made up version of the policy rather than the actual policy.
I feel like they could have avoided all this argument by saying won't raise taxes on working people's earnings, rather than just working people. Any sane and honest person knows what they meant and the whole thing is just trying to gotcha them. Just shows they don't have any substantive criticism.
They've just been flailing around while they've been having the leadership contest. They don't really have a direction.
Hopefully now they have a leader they won't feel the need to argue about literally everything.
Username checks out.
I feel we need a posh version of !okmatewanker@feddit.uk
Thank you for bringing that community to my attention.
What would we call it? hallo-old-chum-you-fiend? my-good-friend-the-dishonourable-sir?
Is anyone posh using British Lemmy who can help advise?
I say, that's a bit much old thing!
I feel... and hear me out.... you're taking this opinion piece too seriously. Read it like you'd read a Spectator article (and I very much appreciate you might read the Spectator). These are meant to be tongue in cheek. They're not meant to be taken seriously or over analysed.
Could you imagine being this put out about the guardian opinion pieces?
Right but they raised the very important point that the article is basically complaining about a bunch of people not being considered working when they are working and are considered working people.
They're literally complaining about nothing
I never saw the article as anything more than a sarcastic opinion piece. They're not calling on the chancellor to reverse the budget. They're not pointing to business opposition. They're not saying anything but haven't an armchair moan in, what looks like to me, a light-hearted opinion piece.
But fair enough if others see it differently. I certainly didn't.