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[-] ravhall@discuss.online 82 points 2 days ago

Oh noes, I bet lemmy.ml users all switch.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Oh so That's why they are offline :-D !

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

They probably blocked that user since all he does is spam anti .ml propaganda on .world.

All while .world admins remove any criticism of their instance for "instance bashing".

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 0 points 13 hours ago
[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago

And nothing of value was lost

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 24 points 2 days ago

Except their privacy—oh they didn’t have it to begin with.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

You can’t lose something you never had

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Isn't the point that they like a dictatorial government? Presumably they're okay with their every move being watched.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

They like it because they either work for it or hope to work for it and be in a position of power.

[-] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Considering how many trans folks exist on those instances, they think they are one of the "good ones".

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Let's just ask our ol' buddy Ernst how that goes.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago
[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Surely you've realised your instance has a huge pro-russian, pro-china tankie presence?

Lemmy.ml admins me for being against Russia invading Ukraine and committing genocide lmao

If you aren't a tankie, migrating your account could be something to consider.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 days ago

"Fuck the white supremacist reddit anti-tankie admins", I'll start my own reddit with blackjack and hookers at lemmy.marxist-leninist to host /r/communism - the creator of Lemmy and admin of lemmy.ml.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] parpol@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

This is why I was secretly rooting for Aether to take off instead of Lemmy.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, people warned me before I joined and I dismissed it, after a year here I realize how bad it is.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 10 points 2 days ago

Do you agree that the CCP was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Tiananmen Square massacre? Do you agree that China is committing genocide against the Uyghurs?

If you agree, think you might agree, or don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, you shouldn’t be on lemmy.ml

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes to both. I absolutely despise both country's governments because of their actions. However mirroring the government's actions to individuals living in a country does not seem fair. I fucking hate my country's president, and would celebrate it if he died. Why should I get judged based on his actions?

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 6 points 1 day ago

You’re not being judged. We are letting you know what your instance is really about. Stay if you want, but you don’t align with it.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 7 points 22 hours ago

I think it should be rephrased. 95% of people on lemmy.ml are probably sane, but since all their moderators are insane, it makes it look like everyone there agrees with them

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 13 hours ago

That’s very possible.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago

No one's judging you based on his actions, they're judging you based on your actions. That being to have your account on an instance that supports those actions.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Eh the massacring happened on side streets, local Peking residents were trying to keep the army from moving into the square not really knowing that other Peking residents had already briefed the army on who the protesters actually were, and what they wanted, and how they behaved. Once the army was on the square and set an ultimatum it was cleared with no or few casualties, the reports are a bit fuzzy.

That doesn't excuse the CCP in one bit, of course, or rather it doesn't excuse the hardline faction who couldn't stomach that others in the party were actually talking to the protesters as that would set a precedent that you can just turn up on the square and get an audience with the party, or maybe more precisely could boost the influence of one party faction over the whole.

The whole situation really can't be divorced from Hu Yaobang and his role in the party: The protests were essentially a wake for him and his ideas. Which the hardliners thoroughly buried afterwards and the situation in China hasn't improved to the point where Chinese would even be comfortable to criticise that decision -- you'd get invited for tea, if you can catch on to the euphemism.

If it had been up to the hardliners yes the army would've massacred the whole square, if that hadn't been their intention they wouldn't have mischaracterised the nature of the protest towards the army. Without ordinary Peking citizens stepping in, and getting butchered for it, that massacre would have happened.

And yes the Uygur situation is a genocide that's without question or asterisk.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago

The massacre is not and has never been limited to the square. It was the event.

Don’t say any of that on lemmy.ml haha

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

See there's the stuff that happened, there's the version that tankies want to believe (complete denial), which is actually different from the official CCP stance ("necessary and proportionate police action to ensure stability", with the implication "enough questions, comrade, nothing more to see"), which is different from western public... myth, I have to say. Back when the stuff went down western journalists didn't know what was happening, there were confusing reports, there were reports of violence, and then there was the tank man -- taken the day after (IIRC, but definitely later and no he didn't get run over). The collective imagination somehow constructed an image of the Chinese army rolling over students. Which is... metaphorically true, but not literally. And then the CCP is using that western imagination to spin their own tale of how the evil west is slandering them.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

There have been plenty of years to get to the bottom of it, and I’m pretty sure the bottom of it has been found.

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[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

They will go down with the Russian ship.

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