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this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2023
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I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. Yes, every country spies to the best of their capacity, that's the nature of the game. While no sane person believes that China is the only one doing this, we constantly get media stories framed that way and there are a lot of mouth breathers running around screeching that China steals western tech. I think the only actual issue is the existence of copyrights and intellectual property. These stand directly in the way of human advancement and should be abolished.
Well of course USA media isn’t going to say “USA got caught stealing IP from china” or anything like that. I’d wager that China doesn’t do it either lol. They both accuse each other while at the same time reaching into each others back pockets. Ones not better than the other.
I get the impression that US talks about China a lot more than China talks about the US.
While US keeps perseverating over China collapsing, China stealing US tech, China becoming a global power, and so on, China's been busy working on doing things like eliminating poverty, creating public infrastructure, providing healthcare, housing, food, and education for all citizens. Chinese government practically eliminated poverty, building infrastructure having used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century, building 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade.
China has also been doing things like ensuring that everyone has housing with 90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world.China's been improving real wages (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) that have gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country, and making sure people have high social mobility.
So, yeah one's a lot better than the other when you look at the outcomes. This meme basically sums up the dynamic perfectly.
I understand your points even if they are off topic. I wish everyone would be rich and prosperous. I have nothing against the Chinese and the ones I’ve met around me have all been great people. It’s easy to get lost in government dick swinging
Yeah I went somewhat on a rant there, and completely agree. I think it would be great if countries focused on improving themselves first and foremost.