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[-] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 26 points 22 hours ago

They had no platform other than fear mongering about Trump.

The difference between Harris and Obama was that while Obama was biracial that wasn't the focus of his campaign, his platform was, and he articulated it well. That's the real lesson to take away from Obama's success at the polls not let's run a black person and hope we win.

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Obama also competed against a deep field of qualified candidates in 2008. He went into the general with momentum of a popular mandate and then won in a landslide.

He would of done nearly as good if he was a white man.

On the flip side, when the republicans lost with Romney in 2012 they did a whole lot of soul searching (rather than blaming the electorate and moving closer to the center to court mythical ‘moderates’ which is the ongoing failed strategy of the democrats), and in 2016 they had an extremely competitive primary where trump came out on top with a mandate as popular with the base as Obama in 2008.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

rather than .... moving closer to the center to court mythical ‘moderate

Looking back at 2016 I think Trump won exactly because he went for the middle: middle working class. I know we all thought he was going hard right (and he did appeal to them for certain reasons), but he campaigned to the middle class and won them.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 8 hours ago

That's bot the middle we're talking about. Trump ran on right policy (and "policy) both elections and won.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Primaries also benefit from the same effect that makes every movie and TV show a reboot: Name recognition. The long primary cycle keeps their name in the news so people get familiar with it so they're more likely to vote for them.

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Normally I’d agree with you because you’re not wrong, but who at this point doesn’t know who trump or Harris are? And where can I find that rock they are hiding under so I can get some quiet time?

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

IKR I'd kill to not know who that asshole is

[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I can’t wait for trump to drop dead of natural causes only so I don’t have to hear his voice ever again

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