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I apologize for the many questions.

I'm still baffled by all the mess surrounding the US elections. Before blaming the people, I'm wondering how it is even possible that Trump could be eligible in the first place. How could the administration allow him to be represented after all the felonies, including those where he clearly sold his country by sharing top secret information with Putin? It seems there is evidence that he has been a puppet for decades. I mean, isn’t that the definition of a traitor? What were the secret services doing? Wasn’t the FBI created to combat the very thing Trump is? Where is all the anti-communist sentiment that the US has become accustomed to?

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

he hasn't been charged/convicted of any of the relevant felonies that would preclude service, and nobody is going to make an issue of it; simply because all three branches of government are now under christofascist control. any lawsuits will go to SCROTUS, where they'll just rubber stamp a decision and cite some bullshit.

also the 14th gives enforcement to congress, which won't do anything either.

[-] llamatron@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But why? Why are all these people so happy to protect such a despicable human being who will happily throw any of them under the bus and who has, and will again, sell out their country to anyone who says nice stuff to him and gives him money? It's absolutely extraordinary.

And it's not like it's a secret. His corruption is there out in the open for all to see. We all see it, we all know it. And yet here we are.

My mental wellbeing has taken a major hit this last day seeing how so many people would rather burn down our future than vote for a competent black woman.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

They have been setting the pieces to this eventuality for 60+ years.

Trump just stumbled onto the very carefully set board, and started messing with it, and exposing the plans in the process. Being the narcissist he is, he is incapable of not using anything he wants, so it forced the Republican establishment's hand. They had to bring him into since the Presidency is necessary to further the plan, and in turn he also became dangerous since he's 100% the type of person to use that information to extort the outcome that helps him. I don't think they really understood how bad an idea that was at the times and now they're stuck.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub -1 points 2 weeks ago

kompromat, comrade

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The question I have is why are felony convictions not considered a disqualification for president but they disqualify everyone else from literally almost any job? I knew someone who got a conviction and was hired by chik fil a then later told whoops we missed that on your application sorry can't hire you.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So you can't weaponize the courts against your political opponents.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I do not buy this one bit. I accept that it's given as a rationale but the only result of it is leaders being above the law and being held to a lower standard than anyone else.

[-] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 2 weeks ago

How does it result in that?

Being eligible to run for president is not a factor in someone being perused for justice.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

... did you read the comments above? We're discussing whether or not we should prevent criminals from running for office. When the answer is "no", that allows criminals to get into office. I cannot get a job at Piggly fucking Wiggly if I am a felon.

[-] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, I did read the comments.

Aside from perhaps a couple fringe exceptions, there is noting enshrined in law that prevents a felon from getting a job. A company may decide to not hire someone because they are a felon, that is their choosing and not a result of a law.

An individuals eligibility for running for president does not impact whether or not justice, as defined by our laws, is perused against them.

If I’m understanding correctly you think that criminals should not be eligible. It appeared that you were arguing that in our current system folks are able to be above the law because they are eligible to run from president. I was asking how someone’s eligibility causes them to be above the law.

I know things are very emotional now and that totally makes sense and perhaps is leading to the hostility of your comments. With that in mind I feel I have presented what I’ve set out to and will not reply to your further.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

enshrined in law

Ah yes, the only thing that matters. Hey guys I can't afford groceries so I'll go back to robbing people -- it's okay though, not enshrined in law! I'll just flash my "felon: I can't get a job anywhere" card at the cops and they'll be on their way!

My obvious point that I clearly stated was that if ordinary citizens cannot even support themselves after being convicted (often wrongly btw), then why do politicians get away with it scot fucking free?

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