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Bernie Sanders blasts Democratic Party following Harris loss
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Shut the fuck up Bernie, you've spent 8 years corralling the working class into the undemocratic party controlled by the rich. Fuck you, you could have actually tried to start a new party but no, you did your job as a tool of the capitalists to keep people voting against their interests.
Saying that Bernie is garbage because he didn't dismantle the two party system seems a bit extreme. He actually has joined third parties but they didn't take off. He's also definitely anti-capitalist.
He's a socialdemocrat, which is still capitalism but with welfare.
That's fair, you're right. I was pulling my comment from memory of him fighting against de-regulation of corporations, which I consider to be an anti-capitalist stance. But I shouldn't have conflated the two.
Depends on what definition you use, classically a social Democrat is someone who believes in using democratic means to gradually and peacefully transition from capitalism to socialism. The definition you are using is actually closer to a social liberal but even that isn't quite right, welfare does not imply a mixed market economy on its own, welfare can exist in a pure laissez fair market economy. Social liberalism is in favor a mixed market economy which is a further step left from simply a regulated market economy with welfare. In a mixed market economy key industries are publicized and owned and operated by the government for the public benefit while allowing for the possibility of private competition as well as an open market economy in other industries and areas.
Absolute bullshit. He had the ear of the country in recent years, and could have told everyone to support a third party. Instead he funneled them into the undemocratic party.
What have you read about Bernie that justifies your outrage against him? Because he's done none of that.
He called for "revolution" only to keep people voting for the Dems instead of building an alternative.
I agree that I didn't agree with him towing the line. But you can't argue that's he's been nothing but a source of good at least at the Senate level and inspiring new progressives
Overall bad because of pulling young people in the Dems.
Hilarious irony, I'm the one trying to build an alternative, you and Bernie are the problem.