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Once Again, the Democratic Leadership Has Failed Us All
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DNC as an organization is shit.
I'm talking to Democrats. I'm trying to tell you what your next move should be. The movement and overall organization of the Democrat Party goes above and beyond just its leadership.
I'm talking to you, specifically. First thing we must do is understand why we lost, and that means understanding how Trump won. And the first step there is to stop taking him as a buffoon (even if he is), because there's a lot of people helping him succeed. We need to think about the whole enemy here, not just Trump but everyone who helped him this year.
And instead of complaining to DNC leadership (who obviously tried everything they could to stop Trump), start thinking about how to defeat MAGA Republicans. Donald Trump is absolutely a shittier candidate than Kamala in every way imaginable. Its not a policy loss here.
Emphasis mine! The last 48 hours have been wild to watch as a foreigner. American Liberals have got their heads stuck in a fantasy land, so far up their own asses, they might as well be MAGA-lite.
The DNC, and entire Democrat party, do not represent D voters. They represent the AmeriCorp plutocracy, who've bought and paid for 90+% of both parties the entire god damn time.
Let me put it this way. The greatest achievement the Dems have made in the last 15 years is the ACA — a republican plan — and what it achieved is still the worst health care system in the entire developed world (dollar for dollar). Democrats (probably you) touted this as a major success. Do you understand how much of a failed state that makes America look to the rest of the world?
Maybe one day you'll understand that neoliberalism created the conditions for MAGA to exploit; that MAGA is just as much a failure of the Democrats, and neoliberalism, as it is of the Republicans, and conservatism. Doesn't look like that's gonna be anytime soon though, so get ready to spend the rest of your life under fascism because Liberals are making it abundantly clear that they're never gonna get it.
Maybe it's time you stop directing your anger at the left or right, and start directing it at the corporate whores who line your own parties ranks.
This is literally why people say Blue MAGA. These people are so scared of trump they would rather lie to cover democrats mistakes then criticize the democrats, because they're terrified criticizing dems leads to trump. Thats Blue MAGA, and it's quite real.
Good analysis. You also should understand that Americans are HEAVILY propagandized, since most of our major media outlets are also captured by the same corporate interests that bribe our politicians. Critiques of capitalism are de facto not allowed, because that would be bad for business. (Not to mention the previous decades of cold war era "red scare" nonsense the older generations grew up with) As a result, many democrats don't know how to receive criticism from the left, and can't even conceive that there might be a different path besides "status quo" and "conservative hellscape".
We aren't getting rid of that in the next 4 years. And I'm a former Republican so I'm not exactly against corporate interests (indeed, corporate interests is where the money and support is).
I'm an anti Trump and as of now, former Republican. This was it for me, it's clear that Republicans can never defeat MAGA so I'm switching to the Democrats side and gonna see what I can do here.
I get that Democrats are more liberal than me so I'll accept my place as a minority view. But I'm not against corporate interests. I'm just against the disaster that's about to happen here in America and now willing to join Democrats to stop it in 2026 and 2028.
This is perfect. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you are the perfect example of why America just voted for fascist dictatorship — you still believe MAGA's are the problem, completely ignorant of the fact that you, your beliefs, and your support for money-is-speech corporate-owned politics places you in the upper percentiles of most-to-blame voters; the older and better educated you are, the more you are to blame. If you've voted R your whole life and are 50+, you're like top 5-10% responsible.
Now you'll consider yourself a Democrat, and support your conservative-indoctrinated idea of "moderate" politics, shifting the already center-right Democrats and Overton window even farther right, while supporting the fallacy that non-profit healthcare, education etc are "radical leftist" beliefs, instead of "what the rest of our allies have had for 50-100 years"... you'll solidify the fascist dictatorship over the next 10-20 years, and you'll do it all, while blaming "the left" — the very people who have been warning that "this would lead to fascism and extremism" for decades.
If I were born in America, I'd probably have ended up less educated and be some tankie communist or MAGA fascist myself because of fellow cotizens just like you. I've never felt better to be Australian, and born under the umbrella of a far more stable, compassionate, governance; despite conservatism/neoliberalisms best efforts to the contrary.
Or maybe, being a naive fool is how the left loses elections.
The Republican right explicitly builds media to serve them and tries to use media as a tool for control. And it works.
You can fight against the laws that empower this money system. But if you naively ignore the power structure and reality of today's media landscape, you WILL BE DOOMED TO LOSE.
If you want to fight against it that's.... Fine. I get it. But you need power first and the current level of power Democrats wield is too low.
And this approach to campaigning does. not. win. elections.
Every one of those MAGA people WANT the shit storm he will bring. It’s not even about politics for a lot of them. They want to own the libs. The problem with this two party system is that it literally splits us in two on a social level. To be blue, you have to want abortion and trans rights and be all “soft” and “liberal,” which for some reason makes people uncomfortable. And to be red, you have to want to take rights away from women and round up the immigrants.
The MAGA hate the “libs” more than the libs hate the MAGA… and that’s why they showed up in such great numbers.
Bwaaahahahaha. No.
To be Red doesn't mean that. Republicans are just better at logrolling than you Democrats are.
If your allies are stinky racists, you roll up your sleeves and try to be a good Republican and make new arguments for your side that can drown out the racists. Why? Because allies are needed for power, and working with people you disagree with is more important for the cause than tearing down your allies.
Democrats need to become more RealPolitik. They need to be less ideal and more self serving if they hope to win elections in the future.