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[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago

No concrete plans yet but we’ll see what they can do. Good to see that some people haven’t given up all hope.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Do not give up hope. Don't stop trying to make the world a better place. As long as we have people that take action, we still have hope.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm done, y'all can have hope. My hope was deleted long ago.

[-] andrewthe95th@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm prone to thinking like that too, but what keeps me from staying that way is the knowledge that that's exactly what the fascists want. So fuck em, it may be illogical but they can pry my belief that we can build a better world from my cold dead hands.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

Fighting fascism is a great cause to rally behind and give people purpose.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is where I'm landing too. I will stay hopeful out of spite for these fuckers.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've done nothing useful or transformative.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

You don't need to be a rockstar. Almost nobody's a rockstar. We need you to be you and to give at least one shit.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just the smallest shit. One iota. One atom.

Don't give in to what those fuckers want.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

If nothing else, save a little for the next vote in 2 years. We can't afford to lose you.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I still have hope... just not for America. I can make somewhere else better.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, I believe America affects the world.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago

True, at least the magas don’t have full control of every state government.

Thats the small hope I'm hanging on to. Federalism might save our country from fascism. Hopefully...

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It will do the exact same thing that happened last time:

Create a civil war.

As the good option.

[-] arin@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

California should just separate from Fed

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

A constitutional crisis is very likely over the next 4 years. And if it does, all bets are off.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The crisis already happened when the SC declared the President a dictator and Biden didn't have them executed for it with the powers they just gave him.

Technically they said Presidents and Former Presidents cannot be prosecuted for it, not give them the authority to. You still have to find a "yes-man" to obey those orders. Biden can try, tell the military to kill SCOTUS members for treason, they say "Sorry Mr. President No-can-do". Biden might be immune for trying to do it.

*keyword "might" be, but Scotus can say "that was not an official act"

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

*keyword “might” be, but Scotus can say “that was not an official act”

In this thought experiment, they would certainly not be able to say that because they wouldn't exist anymore.

Any new justices would certainly certainly hold the Biden-preferred opinion, because otherwise he wouldn't nominate them. (That opinion would neither be "Biden is immune and this is fine" nor "that was not an official act," but rather "we're overturning the previous decision and making the President prosecutable for illegal official acts again," because forcing that ruling would be the entire point of the exercise, BTW.)

In this thought experiment, they would certainly not be able to say that because they wouldn’t exist anymore.

Bruh my brain is so filled with election anxiety that I don't even realize this fact 🤣

But the point remains, the military would never obey such orders. Biden would have to quickly fire the chain of commands until he finds such commander, find a unit in the military willing to perform such illegal act, carry out the act, then get senate to confirm new justices. Oh btw Democrats still believe in the rule of law, senate Democrats would never approve this, even if he orders 50 of the most conservative members killed (50 is quorum btw) there wouldn't be 25 democrats willing to confirm them. What would happen is republican house would impeach biden along with like 90% of democrats voting in favor, then the senate would probably like 40/50 dems voting to convict. Democrats would lose the electoral college like all the swing states against whatever republican is running, even if he tries to get the entire republican ticket killed, since non voting republicans would be raging against democrats. The Democratic party would have to disband and form another party to try to rebrand.

I mean Biden is not a dictator, he can only do what average Democratic politicians in congress would deem acceptable. I mean at this point its just political fan-fiction. This is civil war territory and any speculation would sound surreal and ridiculus.

(The results of this election is already surreal enough)

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

He could have asked for volunteers. I know one person.

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Solve the water crisis, then yeah

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Australia uses desalinization and it works well.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

5th largest economy in the world, motherfuckers!

We don't need the US, but their military means we're fucked should we ever try, anyway

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