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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago

I don't get why it's hard to comprehend. By becoming (even) more conservative, more "R", they betrayed (even more of) their base. Why would timid Republicans want to vote for traitors pandering to them?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Shit I was saying when Biden was still running and I got crucified for it.

As you shift to the right you leave your base behind, ignoring a growing, left swinging faction within the party is going to lead to outcomes like this. Working class people all have the same problems, and one party says they'll do something about it. They're lying, people who are generally smarter and paying attention know they're lying, but that's not most people.

The other party has had a chance, and failed to do anything to alleviate the concerns of the working class. Regardless of the circumstances, or their actual ability to affect change. And they spent the entire election cycle trying to curry votes from a dedicated base instead of getting voters excited about something.

Swing left, swing hard. Become the unhinged leftist the other side is already accusing you of being.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Its a two party system, why would anyone think being a bit more like the other guy be a good idea?

Why would someone pick knockoff awful when the name brand is right there?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Monopolistic competition makes a lot of wild assumptions that can result in such ideas.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

I was called a Russian asset in 2020 for saying this and even more in 2024.

It sucks so much to be so right about something so horrible.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

There's people saying anyone saying dems need to move left are just spreading Russian propaganda

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Yep, surely if we get elections in 2028 (unlikely) we need to run a KKK member as a Democrat! You have to vote for him, Trump's 3rd term will unleash a nuke on Africa.

Please ignore they both want to nuke Africa.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Not only that, if she's not targeting Democrats they won't feel motivated to vote for her. Yes, yes, fascism was the other option. But people are not smart, and I say that as a people.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats would prefer to lose than become more progressive because the rich and powerful still benefit from Republicans winning or Democrats winning as long as Democrats are still centre-right wing.

As soon as Democrats move left the elites start to lose so Democrats don't.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

And we won't have another election again, so these democratic voters who stayed home have denied themselves any other opportunities to right this ship.

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