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[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Even if you're competent at arithmetic in school, those skills can definitely atrophy. I say this as someone who's unreasonably slow at basic arithmetic despite being an ex-mathlete; I got complacent because I've been learning and using graduate level maths, so I thought that would keep me from getting rusty. Nope — it turns out that basic arithmetic that you'd use in daily life is a different "muscle" to the kind of maths you use in academic research (which is obvious in hindsight)

I can't imagine how much I'd be struggling if I didn't have a good foundation to be starting from

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

You aren't alone. Historically before calculators were common, engineers and mathematicians would actually have books with basic arithmetic answers already done, or they would hire people (usually women) called 'computers' (no joke, that's what the term was used for before computers as we know it were invented) to do the basic calculations for mathematicians so they can focus on the more complicated stuff.

So even a highly talented mathematician from the 1910s and 1920s would still struggle as you do.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

This is only tangentially related, but I'm reminded of a thing from Plato where he was complaining that communicating through writing was a bad way of doing philosophy. His concerns weren't just around communicating ideas between people; he was even opposed to writing as an introspective tool to help a person think through their ideas, or make notes to come back to.

"And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing that is your offspring have declared the very opposite of its true effect. If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks.”

  • Plato, "Phaedrus" ^([citation needed])

It's interesting because I don't think he's necessarily wrong about the skill atrophy angle of it. It's just a question of to what extent we need those memory skills in the modern era.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

There is a question of just how much better or worse human memory was in the old days. Some say it was better because there just aren't that many things people need to remember, so they can remember what they consider to be important more easily.

Laws were generally far more rudementary and easier to remember. People didn't need to remember as many numbers as we do now, and as a general rule, the amount of news and events that the average person contended with within their lifetimes was also far fewer. I remember learning a fact that the average amount of news and information a person gets in just one week today is actually more than what the typical farmer would get in their lifetimes. That is mind boggling when you think about it.

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