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Anon doesn't tip
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this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
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If you live in a place where food service workers are underpaid and you don't tip, you're an asshole. This is not a morally defensible stance unless there is a system to protect those workers already in place.
You're right. I should just not go there at all, watch the business collapse, and see them beg for jobs at the next shitty restaurant. That's the better option apparently?
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yes. you accidentally hit on the decent thing to do. if you can’t afford tipping in the context of a system that forces individuals to rely on it, go buy groceries.
They're not employed by me. Wages are between them and their boss. Any more from anywhere else should not be treated as anything other than the optionally-given gift it is.
Tipping culture essentially amounts to legalized wage discrimination.
You're correct. Their wage is often ~$3/hr. It's nearly slave labor.
And you think the customer is the asshole because the system works.
Customers who don't tip are. They are punishing a worker for the crimes of a system. The restaurant owner/manager doesn't suffer if you don't tip. Only the workers do. So until a change comes to the system where workers get paid minimum wage, not tipping isn't morally defensible.
You said it yourself, it's the system that needs to change. As long as we keep chasing our tails trying to blame the customer base instead of the real problem, the ones profiting keep laughing.
*edited 1st sentence for better phrasing
Okay? So push for better laws and higher minimum wage on one hand and until those changes are made, then tip with the other. We can do both at the same time. Right?
I would love to agree. Unfortunately this just circles us back to what ObjectivelyIncarnate said above me
If you're patronizing a restaurant that underpays wait staff and refuse to tip the server, you're not only fucking them but you're supporting the system by going to the restaurant in the first place.
Sure, let me help you! My point is that if you're patronizing a restaurant that underpays wait staff and refuse to tip the server, you're not only fucking them but you're supporting the system by going to the restaurant in the first place.
How does withholding a tip end the current system?
We don't tip workers in those other fields you mentioned because they make a livable wage. Food service workers, particularly servers, often make less than minimum wage.
I'm glad wherever you live pays their wait staff a livable wage. If that happened in the US, tipping wouldn't be the way it is now. Unfortunately the system has to change first. Until it does, if a customer patronizes a restaurant, they should tip. If someone can't afford to tip, they should stay home.
The "invisible hand of the market" isn't going to solve this issue. A change in labor law will. We either need state or federal laws to protect food service workers. Then employers will be forced to pay their staff better and tipping won't be so compulsory.