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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do you know what Project 2025 is? Part of the plan involves removing the bureaucracy and replacing them with Trump loyalists and sycophants

That's if they replace them at all, as in many cases they will be eliminating regulatory agencies entirely.

I hope things like NPR can survive when their funds are finally cut entirely, as at this point the larger stations have enough donors to stay afloat. I hope.

[-] frezik@midwest.social -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, I'm aware. Still doesn't matter. They can start down that path, and then they'll find out how hard it actually is to get the US government bureaucracy to change anything. Infighting among those "loyalists" will also bog it all down.

They're being chosen for loyalty first, and competence a distant second. It's not going to work.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

You're clearly not aware. The bureaucracy is being removed entirely. It won't be there anymore to be an obstacle.

[-] frezik@midwest.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

That's fundamentally not how it works. The bureaucracy must exist to a certain extent. Running a country of 330M people and $25T GDP without it is ludicrous. People must exist in all that who can actually do the work and not just be yes men.

They'll make a lot of press for the first year or so of firing people and trying to replace them. Some of those replacements will back out, and positions will go unfilled. Then the consequences of not having the old guard around will start to sink in, and the whole project will grind against itself.

To be clear, none of this is good. Those consequences won't be confined to the people causing the problems. Not even close. But it will mitigate the damage from a full implementation of Project 2025.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The bureaucracy must exist to a certain extent.

I think you're missing that the GOP has been in "burn it all down" mode for 16 years. They don't want a functioning government, they think government gets in the way of a libertarian utopia (Vance's own words).

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, I'm saying that very factor will kill the whole project. They don't understand how any of it works, why it has to work the way it does (at least to some extent), and things will go wrong because of it. As those things pile up, it's going to be increasingly clear that they are creating more problems than they're solving, and they will have to spend increasingly amounts of time solving those problems rather than moving the project forward.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They don't care if it creates problems because they'll explain it away as short term, transition, private market will solve it because the private market solves everything, etc. That's the point of "burn it all down", they don't care. Everything will go wrong in our eyes, but in their eyes it's not wrong.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter. Certain things have to be done correctly. Orwellian Rightthink doesn't work in the long run; you can say that 2+2=5 all you want, but if you're making a car, it has to be 4. This will affect the billionaire Republican donors, and then they'll start caring.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry but you're seriously missing the point: they don't care.

All these things you care about working correctly, they don't care. To them it doesn't have to be done correctly. To them it doesn't have to be done at all. To them the magical private sector will solve it. Republican donors will probably profit off it.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

When Musk starts losing rockets due to bad weather data out of the husk of NOAA, will they start caring then? Reality has a way of forcing the issue.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No they won't. I'm serious, they don't care. If things going "wrong" it just means they haven't privatized enough and haven't burned down the government enough.

Reality? They don't live in reality.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Tell me… how many of those bureaucrats are going to “slow things down” when they stop getting paid and their workplace is sold out from under them?

They can sue in court… and those lawsuits will be rejected.

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