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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Lemmy is a worse platform for women than Reddit was EDIT this link is an OLD POST that contains my thesis on the state of lemmy and is not the context of the much more recent comment in the screenshot. sorry for any confusion caused by this juxtaposition, my main goal with having this linked is to expose how nothing has improved

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[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 days ago

Seeing the state if discourse in the B4 movement threads makes it so obvious that the present community on lemmy is wildly sexist and misogynistic. Like how egotistical and selfish do you have to be to see a movement that is a rational response to women having their bodily autonomy taken away from them in real time, and interpret that situation in a way where you perceive it as a threat to your personal chances of getting laid?

You could be seeing this movement and choosing to recognize that it is coming from a place of justified fear, anger, and suffering of women all over the country, and decide, "This situation is wrong, we need to fight this." It's not hard. Just be an ally.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 days ago

chad ✅: wow this is insane behavior to see as a man but i understand that women would not be doing this unless the situation was really dire. i am open to listening first and will keep my knee jerk judgements private at least at first.

virgin ❌: wow this is insane behavior to see as a man, and this kind of shit is literally why you women experience sexism in the first place. actions (self preservation and solidarity) have consequences (sexism and radicalization). don’t mind me as i fill this entire thread about women asking to be heard with my hot takes on the situation 🤓☝️

[-] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

Replace 'virgin' with 'potential rapist' and you've got it.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

given the sensitive nature of all this, let’s maybe not repeat that one

[-] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No, seriously, that movement is not justified at all. It's full of transphobia, homophobia, and on top of all this racism expected from Korea of course. They harassed trans people going to women's university, death threat included of course, and also harasses any trans individuals appearing on timeline via QRT/Reply/etc. You should think about this when you talk about that movement.

Some good reads (though on twitter sadly): https://x.com/codud066/status/1855670602985873464 https://x.com/muntamor/status/1855683991262908714

EDIT: The last part was a bit rude, so toned it down a bit. Anyways, as trans individual living in Korea unfortunately, I do feel very unsafe (and had a panic attack) by those kinds of people.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 days ago

i totally hear your concerns, it’s sort of a weird situation because the name is being adopted from an entirely different cultural context by people who might have just heard about it this week

i will say that all the genuine circles i have seen expressing interest in 4b have done their research and are outspoken about rejecting transphobia and only retaining the good parts in their practice, so that’s heartening :)

That's hopeful to hear. The concept of the movement itself is decent, so I hope those don't go the way of TERF like here in Korea.

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