530
Know your genocide apologists
(media.kbin.social)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2023
530 points (78.6% liked)
NonCredibleDefense
3538 readers
5 users here now
Rules:
- Posts must abide by lemmy.world terms and conditions
- No spam or soliciting for money.
- No racism or other bigotry allowed.
- Obviously nothing illegal.
If you see these please report them.
Related communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Wow I wonder if the OP is a right winger.
Also you need to be so far incredibly detached from reality if you think antifa is an actual thing.
Yup, OP's first post after this is a pronouns meme.
A pronouns meme on the side of the pronouns, though?
Is it really, though?
... yes?
Doubt
It's... depicting an androgynous soldier asking a Russian soldier the Russian's pronouns as the Russian force is obliterated by the androgynous soldier. Russian military propaganda has put a great value on being 'macho' and queerphobic. The Russian soldier is begging for mercy in response to the question.
How is it not on the side of the pronouns?
I see. My interpretation was that it ridiculed people who give importance to preferred pronouns. The right and their Russian apologists have been making similar memes about the supposed rainbow army on the West using pronouns in combat. I get that maybe that wasn't your intention but with that context in mind and without your detailed explanation, it seems like just another right-wing meme. I don't think a conservative looking at it would arrive at your explanation so easily. Because, in all honesty, that looks like the tired old trope of a typical Tumbler user being petty thinking they're having an impact and not an androgynous soldier punishing an enemy. Again, it probably wasn't your intention, but that's not what it looked like to me
But anyway, thank you for taking the time to clarify and now I see it differently, I just wanted to give some feedback
No worries. Tone is hard over the internet, especially with imagery that's trying to be 'punchy' and funny rather than precise.
Actually, I caught myself being unnecessarily confrontational. To be honest, I recently had a bad experience and it put me on edge. I really had to step back and reflect. My sincere apologies, man. I should've approached you with an open mind in the first place and I did exactly the thing I hate about the comments social media. It's a tough habit to break but I'm on it.
No offense taken! We all have bad days, I just hope your day gets better (or the next day is better, depending on your time zone)!
I agree with the rest of your post, but i'm a bit confused by this comment. Are you saying antifa doesn't exist?
I was just fired from my job as CEO of antifa, RIP
That's a meme that doesn't apply here. People can identify themselves as antifa without there being an central organising body. And it's not a bad thing either
I would consider antifascists as more of a way of thinking shared by a group of people rather than a community lead by people with a hirarchy and stuff
I guess it can be both
It's just roleplay until they actually go outside and participate in events. Which only like a handful at max do.
Antifa is decentralized like BLM. There isn't really an organization so there isn't really a leader. You can't stop antifa because of that. It's more an ideology and philosophy.
So now this begs the question, are "ideologies" "real?" What is reality, simply things you can sense? Is happiness not real? Love? Sadness? Imo, ideologies and concepts can both be described as "real" same as things you can experience with your senses.
It's not real as in it's not an entity. Of course it's a concept, nobody denied that.
I wouldn't be so sure. Without defining terms it seems some people may be confused on your meaning depending on their conception of what constitutes reality, anyway.
I don't think it's worth getting bogged down by semantics, but as it is, I feel like it's pretty clear what it's not
It's not semantics, it's either a deflection or a problem of defining terms. If someone says "something something antifa" you know they're talking about the disorganized association of like minded individuals who self identifies as antifa, which we seem to both agree "exists.” They didn't say "I remember the first time I met Steve Bavelacqua, Chairman of the Board of The Antifas™, he was but a young lad then." Pretending they did is disingenuous and we all know that, it just turns into this exact bullshit where someone claims, ironically semantically, that "The Antifas™" doesn't exist in an attempt to conflate it with "antifa the concept doesn't exist," which is what anyone is talking about when they say "antifa," except maybe Tucker Carlson or some shit. If you really think they're talking about an organized group ask them, if they say "no you idiot I mean the loose association of people who self identify as antifa, not my good friend Steve, owner operator of Antifa LLC," you're good, if they do mention Antifa©®LLCBBC, then correct them. Otherwise it reads as deflection, gaslighting, or denial, since you sound like you're saying the thing which we both agree, even if semantically, is "real," is not real.
Gotcha, my mistake! Thanks for elaborating
https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
If this website or org that is calling itself BLM dissolves then that org will be gone. BLM itself won't be gone because it is a movement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter
It's in the preamble if you want to read on it.
So if I register Antifa.com, then I'm the CEO of Antifa?
A VAST majority of BLM protests had nothing to do with this organization.
So why did (and still do) many websites have links urging people to donate to this organization under the name of Black Lives Matter?
Probably because some of those websites are a part of that specific organization.
That doesn't change anything I said.
It's like 2 guys. It's extremely exaggerated by right wingers so they have something to straw man.
Antifa is a real thing. I have friends who participate in their stuff. Have I hallucinated the whole thing??
Yes
I'm not sure if it's all a joke or you're just strangely in denial about antifa. Maybe you're thinking of the original "antifa" that has been dead since the 30's?
...do antifascists know?