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[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

We can’t fix global warming, let alone anything else, if the trend of alt-right radicalization of an entire generation continues — already a 30 point swing in just a decade, as evidence by this last election. It’s a global phenomenon. There is simply no reason why a child should be on YouTube or Instagram or TikTok. And btw, it’s extremely easy to enforce, because in Australia they’ll just fine the corporation for every infraction. Camera + ID = problem solved.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Camera + ID = zero privacy for anyone

is a child watching tom scott really a bad thing?

also if someone doesn't want to provide service to Australia because they don't want to handle IDs, how would you block Australians? ip bans won't work because a child can use vpns, and if you want to verify by foreign ID for this then you still need ID checking

australia doing this makes it worse for everyone in the world

also a child could also just ask their parents to verify for them

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Let’s research the effects of social media on teenagers before making up our minds. As for anonymity on public forums — maybe on unpopular websites, we can keep that up, but for the big ones where everyone congregates, we tried anonymous trolling for 20 years and, as a result, every democracy is dying. We can’t maintain civilization without shared space of public knowledge, and that has been severely degraded by trolls and foreign agitators.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 days ago

The radicalisation of young men stems from blaming them for being straight and white. It also stems from a dividing culture of men and women. This is the product of all of those "girls / boys" memes.

They grew up in a good, progressive world, where they understand sexualities and understand mental health. They grew up being taught that it's okay to be diverse and that it's okay to be as you are. But then it turns around and suddenly they're all to blame for their race, or their orientation, things that they cannot prevent--Well, no wonder they're going backwards. Once their favourite games and hobbies are infiltrated by wokeness and forcefulness, this is how they respond.

Should've realised that perhaps forcing social equity isn't a good idea, and blaming young men and boys for the faults of society doesn't gain their favour. Nah, instead let's double-down even.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Honestly, you kinda said it yourself. The whole “woke” phenomenon doesn’t exist in real life. It’s a purely online reactionary movement. The young men I work with have zero issues; they live their lives in peace. Then they get online and are told by the manosphere and red pill communities that everyone hates men and that being masculine is bad and all kinds of other UNTRUE crap that has nothing to do with reality.

I’m not saying young men aren’t struggling. They are, don’t get me started. I’m saying that the whole game of gender wars is happening exclusively online; it’s mostly imaginary; and it’s toxic as fuck.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nope. The radicalization is a global phenomenon that started in 2016, coinciding perfectly with the rise of the online manosphere and red-pill movement.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It goes much more than that. It started as the rise of atheism, where impressionable young boys, wanting to be rebels discovered the dopamine rush of dunking on religious wackjobs like the Westboro Baptist Church. Not blaming atheism, just pointing out it started here.

It then extended further to video games and gamergate. Then they started getting political, which naturally led them down to 2016 and current times.

The point remains that the majority of them blamed wokeness

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sure, atheism was a big online movement in the 2010 era, but it was co-opted in 2015 by the “intellectual dark web,” from Sam Harris to Joe Rogan and the Weinstein fuckheads. That’s when things really started to get bad.

The atheist movement was already fizzling out after the death of Hitchens a few years earlier, and was then metastasizing into something ugly (as you said, video games, anti woke bullshit), until it was eventually subsumed by reactionaries like Jordan Peterson, who burst onto the scene with his crypto-Christian nonsense. Joe Rogan started to get more and more conspiretarded, and the rest is history.

Anyway, the YouTube alt-right pipeline is a well researched and documented phenomenon and when I have to spend all day arguing with 15 year olds about why Andrew Tate sucks, please take my word for it, they need to be kept off of social media. They’re too stupid and vulnerable.

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