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Non-voters and Green Party voters, thanks for making this possible!
But the Democrats didn't reach out to me, personally, and massage my feet while talking to me about my pet issue! So, really, there's plenty of blame to share. /s
If you lived in a swing state, you probably got multiple texts and phone calls from Democrats and other left-leaning groups, and very likely somebody knocking at your door too. Shifted the outcome by something like 3 percentage points.
But, they didn’t come and personally talk to me about how Kamden Hussein omala was going to make the ‘economy better’ (than it did post Trump’s BS)!
You know in swing states dem voters also got a shitload of maga shit? Cuz we did. I have never gotten so much conservative propaganda in my life as I did this last election season in isolation.
Swing state residency is an absolute burden. I’m super left, but seriously. Harassing 1/4 at most of the population incessantly for months every 4 years doesn’t actually make people vote dem either. The whole thing is absolutely fucked but ffs leave us alone! We don’t need 50 texts a day telling us we matter. We fucking know and don’t want that burden.
I don’t give a flying fuck about your 3 points. Give me something to vote for or shut the fuck up (I have always voted dem, and I’ve canvassed and all, because the alternative, but I will probably swap to literally anything better at this point since they are useless af and I'm tired of being a political scapegoat.)
Trump had over 50% in almost all states he won. 3rd party vote isn’t the reason we’re in this predicament.
The person you’re replying to also said “non voters” which was definitely a significant chunk of people compared to 2020’s voter turnout
Didn't make a difference in the swing states they had record breaking turns outs. The drop in votes came in other states that were deicided already settled
I looked it up, and the difference in the voting numbers are close for each swing state when you compare the results from 2020 and 2024. Another factor is that there are more eligible voters in each state so voter turnout was still less as a percentage when you factor in population growth
As long as you can sleep at night
Write this for me professionally and factually correct: The Green Party’s votes did not have enough voters to secure a win for Harris in this election cycle if those votes went to Harris instead of Stein. This was Hillary 2.0, but at least Harris had some policy.
As an independent voter, I cast my vote for Harris, believing she was the most suitable candidate for individuals like myself. However, it's important to acknowledge that the Democratic Party bears responsibility for this outcome.
Harris focused her efforts on appealing to Republicans rather than progressive voters, which was an unexpected approach. The sense of entitlement from the party leadership, and party loyalists, is, frankly, quite astonishing.
What do you expect would happen?
She failed to criticize Biden, and failed to better address the Israel-Gaza conflict.
Because she expected actual progressive voters to already be well educated on what trump 2.0 means for the country...now they eat trump soup, like everyone else.
They wanted hope, not more of "the same"
So instead they chose despair
That is not who I was talking about. Drawing working class people leaning trump or undecided back to her was something she sort of tried to do and failed because of vague economic plans and because they don't recognize trump's fascism under his clownery. These are not the progressives I mentioned, who should know better, even if they were not decisive to her loss in the end.
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But now they're gonna get change for sure.
Reagan (who was definitely worse for workers and civil rights than Biden or Harris) was measurably better than trump, the coming term even more so, but I guess if you are a communist everyone far enough from you is equally fascist. It's funny, because to a fascist, everyone to their left is equally communist. It's political near-sightedness.
If you would not vote for Reagan to avoid a trump... enjoy the shitshow.
The swing states that decided it had record breaking turn outs except Pennsylvania where it was just shy. She lost last i check on Friday by just over 250k votes in 4 states. Around 250k votes flipped causing her to lose. No 3rd party votes for green party would have flipped this election last I checked
Non-voters? 100 percent.
Third party voters? I don't think anybody who votes for a third party ever had any intention of voting for one of the big party candidates.
It's almost like the reasoning music industry execs used back in the Napster days. "Oh we've lost a bagillion dollars because people downloaded those songs instead of buying the album" when most of those folks doing the downloading never had any intention (or ability) to buy the song.