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[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

When was the last time Apple used an Arm chips over intel ? According to the Wiki, this was 2005. X86 software and GPUs were behind apple by quite a way back then. Did they still add Arm to later versions?

Originally X86 was not built with graphics processing in mind. It did not really show anything worth while until the Nvidia viper GPUs in the mid 90s. Prior to that Amiga had the best for graphics processing. I seem to remember Lightshow being the software for Amiga (don't quote me on that, it is from memory). PC became the best for gaming when Voodoo release their first card (possibly 97/98), but they still could not compete with an Apple in graphic processing. Amiga had fell away by this time.

[-] 1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When was the last time Apple used an Arm chips over intel ?

Today.

All their computers are Arm now.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, but Techreader agrees with me on this one. Apple Macbooks are simply not worth the money spent on them. Techreader does not mention the way Apple inhibits servicing or upgrades. A problem that does not exist at that level on the PC platform. Even with a laptop the CPU, memory and HDD are interchangeable. Apple does not want you to upgrade; they want you to spend 10X the cost by buying a whole new product.

[-] 1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

How is that in any way related to whether or not they use ARM chips, which was the only thing I responded to?

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Because of the conversation thread.

natebluehooves@pawb.social indicated that my opinion was out of touch. Since you say his opinion is based on current editions of Apple Macbooks, then my original statements still holds up that current Macbooks are a bad purchase all round.

This is not a remark towards your input, and only that my opinion has not changed.

[-] fedwards9965@mastodon.online 0 points 1 year ago

@Syldon @1993_toyota_camry I bought a Macbook Pro in 2008 and used it happily (with little performance degradation) until 2018 when the displays logic board died and that vintage wasn't being supplied any longer.

I've honestly never heard of a PC laptop lasting 10 years like that, except maybe by grannies who put it in a cozy every night, just play solitaire on the thing and never heard of a Windows update.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Lol, seriously my friend do not repeat that argument. OFC people use very old PCs. If you had a mac running for 10 years, this is not a regular event. The guy mentioned in this post, Louis Rossman, has made a lot of cash from pointing out the flaws behind the Macbook design. He makes a good living repairing them.

The company I worked for had 286 PCs running the stock system all the way up till 2013. This is a PC that was running for 24 years before they considered replacing it. The company was not some back street mickey mouse set up who didn't want to spend cash. This was one of the major car companies. Large companies do not change things that are critical to the operation without a lot of effort to makes sure it goes right. They rely heavily on old systems because they know they work. This is very much the case across a lot of large companies.

[-] fedwards9965@mastodon.online 0 points 1 year ago

@Syldon and I run a file server that's now 16 years old, running Linux as happily as the day we bought it... of course, after it's had its CPU, memory and hard drives upgraded multiple times. For 3 times the price of a Mac of the same vintage and no idea after the upgrades.

I never meant to imply you couldn't get quality PC gear, you very much can, but as soon as you do you're paying just as much or more than a Mac.

The PC vs Mac debate was old and tired in the 90s and now it's just dead.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I never meant to imply you couldn’t get quality PC gear, you very much can, but as soon as you do you’re paying just as much or more than a Mac.

I am guessing you think the internet is wrong then.

[-] fedwards9965@mastodon.online 0 points 1 year ago

@Syldon oh no, indeed not... the internet is the only place to go for accurate, factual and well-rounded and informed information.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

If it was not for the internet people in the UK would have zero idea just how bad the media is, so I really do not understand your point.

[-] fedwards9965@mastodon.online 0 points 1 year ago

@Syldon If you put your trust in the internet then I really can't help ya, mate.

But hey, you do you, right? 👍🏼

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

So tell me. Where is the best place to trust?

[-] fedwards9965@mastodon.online 0 points 1 year ago

@Syldon for "blind trust"...? absolutely no where.

If you want to form an educated respectable opinion then you deal with people that are educated in the field, then listen and learn. Otherwise, an opinion is just vacuous gas.

The internet and society is full enough with people expelling foul smelling gas as is without adding to it.

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