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I need a new vpn and don't know which one I should get, any recs?

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[-] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Not sure what you mean. Are you saying we can only trust Mullvad VPN because IVPN and AirVPN have been caught with untrustworthy actions? As far as I know, they haven't, and they're all pretty much equivalent in tech, security, and privacy. Mullvad is just more popular

As an example it is few thats considered trustworthy and we just dont know if they really are trustworthy.

Easier said then done. At some point you have to be willing to sacrifice with some trust. Even the best security professionals struggle to stay private in today's world of surveillance, so if that trust is yourself, you have to stay on top of security 24/7.

Security and privacy are layers. I would for sure stay on top ( or pay someone to do it for me) if I expecting international warrants.

Using a VPN with TOR is not recommended as a VPN can log your activity every time you connect to TOR. Using a VPN on top of TOR usually doesn't provide you anymore safety unless you are on some public wifi hotspot.

Depends how you set It up but doing VPN for proxy jump will at most let your VPN know you are using TOR. It is recommended , just not by some. VPN is a part of a good setup, a lot more trustworthy than my ISP for example.

Thus, my point is using a VPN, especially one we know is untrustworthy, like Proton, is generally not a solution for privacy and security. Being private and secure requires training and practice, and there's much more effective means of securing your data and anonymity.

See previous points. If you consider all untrusted you limit what those entitys know about you. Proton can know more or less depending how you set it up and use it. Dismissing VPNs because TOR is better is like dismissing blowjobs because fucking is better. We can have both

[-] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I can agree with what you said here. I'm not dismissing VPNs altogether, though. The reason I am so critical is because VPNs are marketed as a magic bullet that makes you 100% private and secure, and the average person does not know better. Many people just believe they need to be on a VPN 24/7 to be private, which can be worse than not being on a VPN at all. I gave a lot of links that weren't necessarily critical of VPNs and explained how to use them correctly. I made emphasis on the need for people to research and practice effective opsec. I don't know what OP needs a VPN for, so I made sure to clarify what to use a VPN for and to dispel any myths that are commonly believed with them.

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