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Look, I am just as anti-Trump as the rest of the sane voters but your arguments don't do you or the Dems any favours whatsoever.
Biden is the one responsible for thousands of deaths in Gaza. He said he's a self proclaimed Zionist, effectively saying that he supports the Israeli war on a personal level.
OP was right. Biden has been allowing this to go on and without US' support, this would have ended long ago. And not only denying that what's going on in Gaza isn't a genocide, but flat out rejecting that there's no famine, even when you're able to count the ribs of children is pathetic.
So what was the solution? Biden should've said he won't run for another term. It's too late for that now and Dems may pay the price.
Biden really is going senile and he really isn't fit to lead another 4 years. Yes, you absolutely can't have Trump return, unless you want the US to become an autocratic dictatorship and spark a civil war, but letting Biden run with this much baggage is suicide. I'd be happy if Dems win, but let's wake up and stop kidding ourselves. We should not be surprised if Trump wins. The Dems have never been this fragmented and we needed everyone to come together last time to beat Trump (and even then it wasn't a landslide!)
If your best argument for Biden is that we can't have Trump, then you're just ignoring everyone else's concerns about a guy who has presided over, and actively and consciously encouraged a genocide. It's not enough this time to simply avoid Trump.
Biden is not responsible for the war in Gaza. Full stop.
You need to stop reading and spreading right wing propaganda.
Also, I'm not "ignoring everyone else's concerns", I'm ignoring your concerns. Some random dude on the internet
The entire world agrees it's a Genocide. The whole world also agrees that the US is an accomplice in the Genocide.
US bombs are constantly found among the corpses of women and children sheltering in tents. If Biden isn't responsible then you're as deluded as they come.
I've realised I'm talking to a literal child. Grow up and take this seriously. I'm talking about the citizens of Gaza who are suffering here as a result of Biden's insistence on supporting this war. I'm not interested in exchanging one liners with an internet goblin.
Just because one side is disadvantaged and losing doesn't mean they deserve your support. Those women and children are dying because Hamas is sheltering among them. If you really want the carnage to stop, you should be pushing for Hamas' complete surrender and the return of hostages. Otherwise, Israel is just going to keep killing. Is it sad? Is it unjust? Sure, I'd agree with you there. But it's also a war, and people die in wars. How many German civilians were killed by American/British bomb raids in 1945? How many Japanese civilians were killed when atomic bombs were dropped on them? Unfortunately, war is messy and lots of people die
Between 300,000–600,000 German civilians and over 200,000 Japanese civilians were killed by allied bombing during the Second World War, most as a result of raids intentionally targeted against civilians themselves.
How is this right wing propaganda? The right agree with Biden on this matter. When did the pro-Biden vote get ridiculously fascist?
“Joe Biden is causing WW3 OMG!!!” is definitely a right wing talking point. “No wars started under Trump, 2 wars started under Biden!!!” See?
The right would do the same as Biden. You lying about this matter is just pro-Biden propaganda.