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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee.

That's not what the DNCs lawyers argued to a judge less than a decade ago...

You're assuming the DNC can't just change their own rules first. Which is what the DNC is currently acting like.

It's not true though. They change their own rules all the time.

[-] hypnoton@discuss.online 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're assuming the DNC can't just change their own rules first.

The DNC is a private corporation. Corporations are people too, friend.

Everything you said checks out, sir.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago

What the DNC lawyers say and what the general public will allow are two different things.

If Joe doesn't volunteer to step down, and it looks like he won't here's what will happen:

  1. Joe runs and loses.

  2. DNC removes Joe for Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

  3. DNC forces both Joe and Kamala out and they lose because the voters had no say in the process.

Really, the only way out here is for Joe to die and get replaced by Kamala who then gets the sympathy vote.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, but polls show voters want to replace him...

If the DNC replaced him, that's what voters want.

Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

I'm linking this too much probably.

But this podcast changed my mind about her. Still think she'll be a bad president. But trump is probably the only candidate she can beat, even with the 29% approval rating. After this video I think she can beat trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jic_uL3-q4

If you're worried Kamala can't beat Trump, watching the first half of that will make you feel a lot better about her.

Because honestly, I can't imagine the DNC let's anyone else takeover.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

The polls don't know what they want and your average voter is a moron. If they asked them "Well, what should we do?" most likely the answer would be "Well, re-run the primary!" not realizing it takes 6 months to run a primary in 50 states+DC.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The polls don’t know what they want and your average voter is a moron.

So you think voters will do a 180 and now be upset Biden is replaced when they've been calling for him to be replaced?

I don't understand.

There's been no waffling in the polls, even in 2020 voters thought Biden's age was a significant issue.

They still do, but they used to too.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I do, because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

The same way the DNC forced Hillary on everyone in 2016.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

I agree with that

But I think Biden and Hillary are the only two who can lose to trump.

I think if it's not Biden it's Kamala. If you still don't think she can win, check out that podcast I linked you. I know podcasts suck, but it's really fucking good and logically spells out how despite how bad Kamala is, she can still beat Trump. And like we've said, they agree she's pretty much the only one the DNC would nominate

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Kamala can't win because even her own staff hates her and she has tremendous baggage from her days in California.

I do like the Biden clip on Morning Joe though.

https://youtu.be/8aziuR76Cek

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

I'm not trying to be out her campaigning for her...

But her baggage is being a prosecutor. And she be running against a guy with 34 felonies.

She uniquely excels at debating idiots. She can be incredibly dismissive and then pivot quickly back to the issue.

15 minutes into a debate/exchange and trump would be screaming nonsense giving himself a heart attack and Kamala would be calmly lying to us about how progressive she is.

And even though we all know she's lying, we knew Joe was lying in 2020 too. We still voted for him.

We voted for Hillary in 2016.

We voted for Obama in 2012 after we knew what he was really like.

We won't go that far with Joe. But Kamala has benefit of the doubt. And that's enough to get votes when trump is on the ballot

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The baggage goes a little beyond "being a prosecutor":

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

Getting caught manipulating evidence is exactly the sort of thing that cost her the primary bid and should have cost her the VP job.

But when it comes to electability, literally nobody likes her. Even her own staff hates her. She's a non-starter as a viable candidate. She's Hillary but less likeable.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Getting caught manipulating evidence .that's not what the link says happened...

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