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web4 – The Second End of History? (fungiverse.wordpress.com)

TL;DR: The internet’s evolution mirrors historical societal development. Transitioning from web2 to the social web and ultimately to web4 signifies a transformative shift akin to the end of the Middle Ages and the dawn of modernity, with the ultimate goal of achieving liberal democracy. In the style of the Dot Com Boom, the social web will witness the rise of influential digital forces, which will in this case be global collectives, shaping the digital and societal landscape. Web4, characterized by these decentralized collectives, offers the potential for positive change within the liberal democracy framework; with the possibility of reaching the actual end of history for homo sapiens and the entering of a new stage for humanity, in which a new form of human will emerge: the homo digitalis.

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[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

As long as it's still all hosted on remote servers, it's still web2.0

P2P protocols will be an evolution.

[-] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Moderation doesn't work there.

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Maybe we would just have to rethink moderation.

[-] blue_berry@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Skepticism should be a constant.

[-] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

And that's what web3 tries to achieve. P2P + incentives

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

We talking about web4 when web3 isn't even real yet?

[-] blue_berry@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Its skipped. In between comes the social web/fediverse.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Good, web3 was a bunch of wank anyway.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

How about you fuckers stop grifting buzzwords?

Until there is an actual shift towards any form of federation, where it becomes the standard for the web, the web is still basically what it's been for many years. Web3 is bullshit, and trying to lump federation in with it is a fast-track towards shitting over any benefits that it might have to people.

[-] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No web3 is skipped. Next comes the social web. The articles name is misleading. CollectiveWeb would be more fitting then web4

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Web3 is a thing in the same way that the Semantic Web was a thing - it wasn't.

The same goes for federation. There isn't a single leading service, and until it is a proven idea that the whole web leans towards, it's just a theory or a grift.

this post was submitted on 07 Jan 2024
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