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Was banned on a totally different instance and community despite never commenting in the community.

I suspect I was banned for questioning the narrative in this thread yesterday:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/be066e3c-b1ae-416c-bc71-248d3056c6ed.jpeg?thumbnail=1500&format=webp

I am a trans person and have no issue with trans people expressing who they are. The mods and admins of blahaj frequently use Gatekeeping as a false umbrella ban for any user they want to get rid of. This is also discussed in yesterday's thread by some users.

The owners of that 196 space have proven they are unable to let sleeping dogs lie and are hellbent on tearing down all other instances in a tribal war, and have decided to start lurking in other spaces and preemptively banning people like reddit mods.

This is not fair moderation practices, it's a petty tit for tat because abuse in their community was called out yesterday.

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[-] kabi@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

despite never commenting in the community

I suspect you got instance banned and that got you banned from the community, but you're going to have to check the modlog yourself.

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago

I am going to ask here because I couldn't do it in the other one before it was locked.

Hypothetical scenario

  • An unmoderated instance allows people to make hate speech comments
  • That instance also has interesting communities, so defederation is not possible
  • An admin sees this and pre-emptively bans the people making hate speech comments

Would you be okay with way of moderating? I'm asking because it seems like the "despite never commenting in the community" argument gets brought up a lot, but is that really that good of an argument?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 day ago

Good illustrative post.

In the end, and I am sure you are aware, you pose the wrong question. “Would you be okay with that way of moderating” isn’t the question because it ignores the dynamics of federation. Ada owns the server. If you’re not okay with the moderation, you move servers, and a huge community like 196 has already shown it will move mountains to stay on LBZ.

So, the question OP should ask is “do I care enough about this space to apologize or attempt to make ammends?”

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[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 11 points 1 day ago

YDI, go apologize if you actually care, otherwise clearly that space wasn’t for you anyway. The admin there has been very clear that such dialogue is not permitted in the space she owns and that she maintains the right to do preemptive bans. You can disagree with the rules but you can’t be butthurt that you broke them and got whacked for it.

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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

banned for gatekeeping

YDI, this that you are/were doing. It doesn't matter if you are a trans woman. Gatekeeping people's identities is still gatekeeping. Blahaj bans transmedicalists so you should know better than to try and say it's okay because you're a trans woman. In addition the whole "Just asking questions rhetoric isn't accepted either because it's what those "polite transphobes" you see on BBC use and honestly they should be banned. Not banning them is to fall for their bullshit and allow them to continue their invalidating and abusive arguments.

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com This seems like a rehash of the other locked topics. Lots of bellyaching, very little merit in them.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

This seems like a rehash of the other locked topics

This one seems pretty settled by now compared to yesterday.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't imagine it will stay that way for long, these threads almost always become a breeding ground for people who were banned for gatekeeping or transphobia to bellyache and whine about blahaj for not allowing blatant or subtle gatekeeping.

Edit: Called it, thread is filled with whiny transphobes and gatekeepers bellyaching about being banned from a privately run Lemmy server for their refusal to follow the rules and respect others.

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If this isn't gatekeeping, then what is it? Sparkling "just asking questions"? This is what gatekeeping is, sweetheart. It's a form of bigotry in which you tell someone, either directly or through implied statements, that their identity isn't valid. No wonder you got banned from a queer safe space. It doesn't matter how trans or gay you are, perpetuating the cycle of abuse will get you banned from queer safe spaces.

If you're unable to fathom the possibility that someone could have an identity that doesn't make sense to you, grow up. There are a lot of things that people do which seem silly in life but are an integral part of who they are. Grow the fuck up.

Edit as a warning to cis allies for this comment chain: I was a bit sloppy with my aim, sorry if you caught a stray bullet.

[-] LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I am a trans woman.

I have no issue with Neopronouns, they/them/it, even the humans who identify as like Xi/Xit I'm fine with even though it's a bit weird imo.

But non human gender identities is where I draw the line

I'm sorry, but I don't like transgender people being looped in with people who want to be animals, mythical creatures, and aliens. It comes off as disingenuous when these people try to insert themselves into trans spaces to get validation while trans people IRL are being put in camps.

Ironically the admins have decided what the definitons of transgender are, and gatekeep that definiton.

If you think bullying trans people into these weird guilt games is productive then maybe you should grow up, sweetheart.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Tbh, this one is difficult to make a good PTB response about.

The closest I can get is it might be YDI, because your user history does show a proclivity to the kind of arguments that blahaj regularly uses as the criteria.

But, it could be PTB instead, since your user history is also free of actual gatekeeping comments, on this account.

But you do mention that this account is one of at least two, with the intent of keeping another account specifically for blahaj that you want to protect. If that's the case, we have no way of knowing what you've said where that could be a legit violation.

Now, the screen shots provided don't show you actually violating the rules, so, it's a qualified PTB where there's a possibility that you did and I just can't see it. If that's the case, I'd reserve the ability to change my mind.

I will say though, so far everyone that's posted about this has ended up having violated that rule and it just wasn't visible immediately. It's a controversial rule for sure, and preemptive bans even moreso.

Now with that out of the way, you did ask some questions about neopronouns that I never saw get answered. I will not dive into that on this thread because that's not what this community is for.

However, having had some recent exploration about neopronouns, xenopronouns and related issues, if you shoot me a DM or make a post in a community that is for asking questions about difficult subjects, I'll gladly share what I've found regarding what those things actually mean, and would likely be willing to briefly and civilly discuss my opinion on the matter. But I don't let internet arguments go very far, so remember that I won't be debating the issue, just explaining what I've learned and my opinion, so if it gets past the point where it's two folks having a chill conversation, I'm out. And, to repeat, I won't do that here, this isn't the community for that

[-] BomberMan9865@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

WTF?! YDI. You should know better than to act like that in a trans space. I myself am Nonbinary and a therian and have had to deal with people exactly like you telling me I'm crazy for it. The thing is I have species dysphoria and it's not something I can control, so calling me crazy for it is as bad as someone saying you're crazy for you having gender dysphoria. Go fuck yourself!

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