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People who eat beef don't give a shit about climate change (lemmy.world)

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[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I used to think like you. But then I released that you aren't gong to successfully convince billions of people to fix climate change through personal choices and carbon footprint efficiency.

Collective action to change government policy to make climate pollution uneconomical is how it changes.

Maybe that policy makes meat a luxury commodity and you get what you want, but human will is too weak to assume that people will stop eating meat out of choice.

The concept of our personal carbon footprint was one of BPs most successful ever marketing campaigns to avoid their accountability.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jfc the vegan extremism in tech shows so hard on Lemmy it makes me both embarrassed to be in tech, and on Lemmy.

Fuck off. Feeling guilt (or worse yet, telling others to feel guilty) for eating beef when there exist billionaires with private jets is beyond absurd. Especially when we consider food availability, cost efficacy of feeding the populations...

Get your head out of your asshole.

You're no better than the Christofascists telling 'the gays they'll go to hell,' ramming ideology down peoples throats by way of guilt and shame. Exact same ideological posturing. Its abhorrant; it's pathetic.

[-] boletus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I don't think it's irrational to be critical of decisions just because there are worse evils. Whataboutisms don't solve anything, because you basically invalidate any argument with "but rich people have private jets".

You can have more of a bearing on your fellow man than you do on corporate untouchables, so if you want to see change, start with the small stuff.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No. That is just rampant stupidity. That is the same as a fat person celebrating eating a salad for lunch while still planning on gorging themselves on chocolate for dinner.

Blaming individual poor person choices IS ALWAYS WRONG in a world with billionares. PERIOD. This is fucking brainless in-fighting because you are too stupid to understand the sheer scale of the world or the rich's impact on it. Genuinely, a pathetic attitude to have and especially to defend.

[-] boletus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Cool so I should ignore issues around me because someone else out there is doing much worse. I didn't even mention fighting people over it, I simply believe it's worth discussing and debating these topics, regardless of its relative impact. Without community and localism, culture will vanish, and culture is how things change.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Do you have a moment to discuss our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?

🙄

[-] boletus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I'm good thanks

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 month ago

Lol... I doubt that opinion is that unpopular but you can try the same set up with people who

Who fly for tourism Drinking bottled water at home Drive SUV Live in a large houses without sufficient head count

That ought to get people properly triggered. Beef is a low hanging fruit and even most beef eaters know this. Just eat less of it.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 month ago

I eat beef and care deeply about a sustainable biosphere. The future depends on Forages. https://youtu.be/bDnZ-oNjatY

Top Soil depletion should also be very scary to people, its quickly running out via current mono-cropping industrial farming. The only way to restore top soil is via ruminants

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People who fly in planes...

People who drive cars...

People who work for corporations...

People who eat imported off-season fruits and vegetables...

People who have children...

There are thousands of personal choices everyone could make to make the world a better place, and none of them will be effective on their own. We're all thoroughly fucked because the rich control the world and they think they will be able to ride out the collapse on their private islands and gated farms. Nothing you and I can do will stop the apocalypse, so stop being judgemental about choices other people make, and just enjoy the ride.

[-] chosensilence@pawb.social 0 points 1 month ago

agriculture is also contributing to human accelerated climate change, jsyk.

[-] kinsnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

True. Let's try to reduce agriculture too. Let's see what most of the farmed food is used for. Oh. It's used to feed cows for beef.

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Whatabout

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, citing a different, DIRECT CAUSE is NOT whataboutism. It's pointing out your pathetic ability to understand how different things at large scale add up.

It is only your failure when someone points out a more significant thing and you then deny it. You're denying reality at that point. Pathetic ignorance from you will not save any of us.

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Yes it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

No, it's not. Pointing out how you've missed much greater targets is only pointing out how your acope is braindead and too narrow. It is NOT a whataboutism to deacribe how you completely and utterly fail to understand the core problem.

[-] ExFed@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Judging from the comments, this is truly an unpopular opinion. I wonder why it's got so many downvotes ... It is what it says on the tin.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It's low effort rage bait

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

One could argue the kinds of posts perfect for this community are all rage bait.

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Your downvotes prove my point, let's watch it unfold.

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I upvoted you so now you're debunked.

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