Does lemmy.ml own db0? db0 user denies the Uyghur genocide, begins to backtrack that maybe there are human rights abuses, and then immediately backs off as soon as lemmy.ml admin, Davel, steps in. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by goat@sh.itjust.works to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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[-] Takapapatapaka@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

We should calm down attacks on db0 as well as on anti-tankies, it leads to this bs. The db0 user agrees that China is trying to erase their culture by doing bad things to Uyghurs, and just want to disengage, that's something we gotta respect. They never show acceptation of the fallacious .ml comment, on the contrary disengaging shows exasperation from it. It is only a disagreement on terms caused by hesitation on what to deduce between us propaganda and china propaganda, and yet they are treated as the enemy.

Yes genocide denial is bad, but putting them in the same box as .ml is bad too and may be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 15 points 3 weeks ago

Really, the only db0 user I've seen actively supporting tankies (such as deleting comments calling out .ml bozos on their bullshit) is Unruffled. Most of that instance is still against them, or so I'd like to believe.

[-] s@piefed.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Unruffled is famously very easily ruffled

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

If they are content with supreme leader davels regularly posting in their community, then they're tankies or content with sharing their spaces with tankies.

Tankie bar

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I remember when Davel and Cowbee were clowned on every time they showed up there. I miss those times.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Now you have users fleeing from them lol

[-] zzx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I fucking hate that davel guy.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You've never commented or voted on here before. What are you doing speaking for this community? Account that has been inactive for two months. I wonder what your main account is.

Either way, tankie bar anecdote.

Db0 keeps working with tankies, but what they won’t accept is that if you sit down at a table with nazis, the only thing that’s changed is the number of nazis at the table.

They're tankies until they disavow them.

[-] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like you edited to remove the account part, that was a good move, this is my main, the other one was my old one that's still on the phone.

Other than that, you're right to call out the lack of critics from db0 admins/mods and general community towards tankies, but this is still a bad example to my eyes. We cannot blame someone for disengaging, especially a regular user with a good reason.

[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

And especially when Davel is replying to 'This is the tankie talking point, which is wrong' with 'BUT THAT TALKING POINT IS WRONG'

[-] eatham@aussie.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

Unless that is the instance owner/ admin, don't assume the instance as a whole is tankie it's probably just that user

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Tell that to the db0 instance, which insists we're a nazi community because a single user dared speak out against them.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'm commenting this on an alt (main is banned for being a dbzer0 user), since this is me in the screenshot. I disengaged because I didn't want a hexbear dogpile on the subject, because I hate arguing with them. I literally said that in the comment.

I never backtracked on anything, I have always said there's human rights abuses.

It's pretty disingenuous to say I deny the genocide, I just don't use that specific label for the atrocities happening, I'm using the one used by the UN and Amnesty International. I even said there's a plausible case to be made that it is genocide.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

So you know Hexbear harasses, yet you're still federated with them?

Maybe I should make a db0 account

[-] SadJustSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe you should find a hobby.

I heard knitting is nice

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

correct me if I'm wrong but irelephant is not db0. that user is not even an admin there

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

db0 as in the instance

[-] irelephant@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I am not db0 nor an admin.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

'We're not tankies!'

'Supreme leader?! I apologise, I must go! Disengage!'

[-] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago

What even is this post? How does any of this imply lemmy.ml owns db0? Recently it seems like there are more and more posts on MoG that are just incredibly hyperbolic

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think the amount of caps in the titles and the hyperbole do more harm than good, yeah.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Who would be intimidated by that coward?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

lemmy.dbzer0.com is owned by dbzer0

[-] SadJustSad@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh nooooo. I guess you will have to post about it 24/7 for the rest of your life now

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -2 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, what's your stance on Palestine @goat? I remember you being pro-genocide

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I consider it a genocide, and I'm critical of Israel's actions. I support Macron's plan for peace.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry then I got confused

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

that's okay, there's a lot of misinformation circling around

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