Judging by the replies and down votes, yes we have.

I think you're missing the point here. You're claiming Google only pays Mozilla to have a competitor, yet they also pay apple even more money for the same thing in an area they're just competing.

The point is that there is competition in the default browser search space, it's just that Google pays more than anyone else.

If Google stopped paying Mozilla tomorrow, someone else would pay them for the same default search engine spot. It might not be as much, but it would still be a significant amount.

A few years ago it was Yahoo that footed the bill.

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As much as I'm happy to criticise Mozilla and its leadership, this graph is misleading.

Firefox is not the only thing Mozilla does, not should the market share of the browser be the sole metric the leadership is measured by.

Overlay the revenue and profit (or whatever revenue minus expenses is called for a nonprofit), then decide if the CEO is overpaid.

Yes they contributed a lot to web standards, bit they didn't contribute to actual user experience which is why people install a web browser in the first place.

Mozilla consistently gets complacent.

I use teams on Firefox and haven't encountered any issues. Admittedly I only use it occasionally, as I do mainly use the desktop app.

Despite my above rant, I still use Firefox as my primary browser. The web works absolutely fine on it. I think I've encountered one site that required chrome to work correctly in the last year and that's a huge improvement over where we were back in the early 2000's with IE.

No, there's other reasons why people don't switch, compatibility is not the issue.

Stagnation is Mozilla's MO. Fuck, go look at Thunderbird and be transported back to the 90's.

Even Microsoft is updating outlook - fucking outlook is innovating, Outlook being the cancer on email that's held it back for decades, is being updated.

Mozilla has been a sinking ship for decades now.

There's a reason Chrome was able to steal the alt browser market from Mozilla at a time when even laymen understood that IE was awful - Mozilla stopped innovating the second they were winning. They had tabs! What more could you want?

Chrome came along at a time when browser performance wasn't a focus, when JavaScript meant websites were slow, and said "fuck that, let's make it fast". Say what you will about Chrome or JS, Google was on to something and the modern web today is 95% thanks to Chrome pushing things forward.

Everyone jumped to Chrome and Mozilla fucked around for literally years before they got the memo that actually browser performance matters. They were once the best browser tools on the market until once again Chrome pushed the envelope, and once again developers switched while Mozilla sat back and did nothing.

Mozilla meandered back and forth, releasing shitty products nobody wanted (like pocket and send) instead of focusing on the most important thing: the browser.

Yet they're somehow still here, hobbling along, doing fuck knows what instead of making a better browser and innovating to beat Chrome.

Conservatives will latch on to the Democratic donations and use it as "evidence' that the guy was 100% a democrat through and thought and that democrats are the only ones trying to assassinate their political opposition, I guarantee it.

They did exactly the same thing with the last attempt.