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[-] smeg@infosec.pub 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

tl;dr A network operator can perform a MitM attack on the built-in updater's call-out checking for updates by faking the Notepad++ update website, telling it a new version is available at and then downloading and running the malware

It requires a malicious network operator, or preexisting malware on the host.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

I would doubt that the average self-updating Windows program has better security.

[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v889-released/

Since you have to opt into tracking to read the article (which I think is illegal) here's the source.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

One of the few moments safari is the easier option…

-tap hide distracting items -tap the bullshit banner -it blows away dramatically

[-] 9bananas@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago

ublock has the same function; it's the thunderbolt icon, which let's you just zap away whatever html element offends you!

...no fancy animation tho...is there a plugin that animates the ublock zapper? that would be very fun!

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Until version 8.8.7 of Notepad++, the developer used a self-signed certificate, which is available in the Github source code.

That doesn't sound wise.

[-] techt@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

2025-07-09 **“Sometimes, when one door closes (lack of code signing) in life, another one opens (vulnerability) .”\

The sentence sumarizes well the situation in the previous version, 8.8.2.

There were - and still are - many false-positives reported in the previous version v8.8.2, by the antivirus software due to the absence of Windows code signing certificate.


1. ~~Double-click the certificate, it may tell you it’s invalid, ignore that and click: \*\*“Install Certificate..”~~\*\*~~.~~
2. ~~In the Certificate Import Wizard, select \*\*“Local Machine”~~**\~\~, then click \~\~**~~Next~~\*\*~~.~~
3. ~~If prompted by UAC (optional, depending on admin Previleges), click ~~**~~Yes~~**~~.~~
4. ~~Choose \*\*“Place all certificates in the following store”~~**\~\~, then browse and select \~\~**~~“Trusted Root Certification Authorities”~~**\~\~. Click \~\~**~~Next~~\*\*~~.~~
5. ~~On the final page of the wizard, click~~ **~~Finish~~** ~~to complete the installation.For detailed instructions, see Notepad++ User Manual.~~

We’re still trying to obtain a certificate issued by conventional Certificate Authorities, for a better user experience. But let’s be honest: it’s probably not happening. Notepad++ isn’t a business - it’s certainly not an enterprise - and apparently, that makes a popular open-source project invisible to their gatekeeping standards.

If the “gatekeepers” won’t issue a certificate under the name we deserve - so be it. At least it spares us from wasting time and energy on a frustrting process that demands we [beg for a new certificate every 3 years](https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v764-released/). The Notepad++ Root Certificate may not carry their approval, but it leads us to freedom.

***Edit (2025-12-03): Starting with v8.8.7, Notepad++ binaries - including the installer - are digitally signed using a legitimate certificate issued by GlobalSign. As a result, Installation of the Notepad++ root certificate is no longer required. We recommend that users who have previously installed the root certificate remove it.***
[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

I give up trying to fix the formatting. I had it right, but then adding the image, fucked everything up again, and now blorp crashes when I try to edit it again.

I guess this will be one of the rare cases when you do have to read the article in order to be informed instead of just the comments.

[-] asbestos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So the private key was left in the Github source code and nobody caught it? Or was it the public key? (which makes this statement way less impactful)

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Private key probably. Only the public key is not enough to sign the package.

[-] rowdy@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

we share data with our 188 partners

That’s a no from me dawg

The updater integrated into Notepad++ has allowed itself to be infiltrated by malware, which has been installed on some PCs. The developer of the powerful open-source text editor is responding with an update to Notepad++ v8.8.9. Users currently have to perform the update manually.

In a news post on the Notepad++ website, developer Don Ho explains that "some security experts have reported incidents where internet traffic affecting Notepad++ was intercepted." According to the post, investigations have revealed that traffic from the Notepad++ updater WinGUp "was occasionally redirected to malicious servers, leading to the download of compromised executable files." IT security researcher Kevin Beaumont reports that at least three organizations "with interests in South Asia" have been targeted in this way.

As Beaumont explains, the updater uses a version check that queries the URL "https://notepad-plus-plus.org/update/getDownloadUrl.php" and evaluates an XML file delivered through it. The updater uses the download URL listed in the XML file, saves the file in the %TEMP% folder, and executes it. Anyone who can intercept and manipulate this traffic can therefore change the download URL. Until version 8.8.7 of Notepad++, the developer used a self-signed certificate, which is available in the Github source code. This made it possible to create manipulated updates and push them onto victims. Since v8.8.7, however, Notepad++ relies on a legitimate GlobalSign certificate, and installing its own Notepad++ root certificate is no longer necessary.

Remedy through updates

With Notepad++ v8.8.8, the WinGUp updater now forces github.com as the download source. Version 8.8.9, released overnight on Wednesday, further hardens Notepad++ and WinGUp so that they correctly check the signature and certificates of downloaded installers during the update process. If the check fails, the update process is aborted. Don Ho notes that investigations are ongoing to determine how the traffic hijacking occurred in the observed cases.

Kevin Beaumont also lists some indicators of compromise (IOCs). For example, connections from "gup.exe" to URLs other than "notepad-plus-plus.org", "github.com", and "release-assets.githubusercontent.com" are suspicious. Likewise, attention should be paid if "gup.exe" starts unusual processes – only "explorer.exe" and "npp*" related Notepad++ installers should run under it, which since versions 8.8.8 are also signed with a GlobalSign certificate. After the observed attacks, files named "update.exe" or "AutoUpdater.exe" (Notepad++ itself does not use these names at all) were apparently also found in the user's TEMP directory, from which "gup.exe" downloaded and executed the updaters.

Notepad++ 8.8.8 does not find the update yet

Notepad++ v8.8.8 currently does not find the update.

Beaumont recommends updating to at least Notepad++ v8.8.8. However, version 8.8.9 is even further hardened. The integrated updater from Notepad++ v8.8.8 does not yet find the update, and "winget" also does not currently find a newer software version. However, the latest version is available as a manual download on the Notepad++ website.

Notepad++ is frequently targeted by malicious actors because the software is popular and widely used. Last year, for example, Don Ho asked for help to get rid of a "parasitic website" that was creeping into the original Notepad++ site in Google search results. It had unscrupulous intentions. In general, fake sites often appear in search results offering virus-infected files.

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This article was originally published inGerman. It was translated with technical assistance and editorially reviewed before publication.

[-] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Don't whine about data sharing, just open it in a non-javascript browser. Perfectly readable.

[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, don't complain about shitty things, just work around them.

[-] Cobrachicken@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

This is a tech sub. People should be capable to know their shit around these well known annoyances. Now imagine US sites that have much fewer regulations. Don't you ever again browse, or do you just click on 'accept all'?

[-] null@piefed.nullspace.lol 3 points 4 months ago

It sucks that it's impossible to complain about things and work around them. Sadly we're trapped 😔

[-] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Just because someone is tech knowledgeable, doesn't mean they know everything about tech.

[-] rowdy@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

Mate you’re the only one whining. I got around the cookie banner just fine, and reposted here for others.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This isn't the first time Notepad++ was compromised. if I recall correctly, the first time was by a CIA backdoor.

https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v733-fix-cia-hacking-npp-issue/

[-] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago

That doesn't really have anything to do with notepad++ in particular though. I don't think it's typical for programs to be running checks on the integrity of dll files.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't get how this was exploited in practise.

Even if the signatures on the downloaded packages weren't checked properly, how would you modify the content of the XML file returned from https://notepad-plus-plus.org/update/getDownloadUrl.php?version=8.8.0 ? For that you'd have to break or MITM the TLS too, no?

The usual case for TLS MITM is when a company decides DPI is more important than E2E encryption and they terminate all TLS on the firewall, but if the firewall is compromised there would be much easier avenues of entry other than notepad++

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Not accessible without accepting advertising cookies, like Healthline.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Zap the overlay with uBlock

But yeah fuck the author and everyone else using the "pay or be tracked" scheme. If you want to show ads to non subscribers, fine. But there's no reason to require tracking users to do so - if non-tracked ads are less profitable, take it up with the ad networks.

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Agreed in all accounts. I do use ublock on my laptop but not on mobile.

[-] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 months ago

OP, if people have to do the work for you in posting sources, consider this a learning lesson as to what not to do.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 4 months ago

It's a bit concerning that neither the article or Notepad++s blog post say what the affected version is, or what the minimum safe version is.

I'm assuming the minimum version is 8.8.7 since that's when they moved away from self signed certs, but it would be nice to hear it from the horse's mouth.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago
[-] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, I did.

8.8.9 is the fully hardened version, but the 8.8.7 update should have fixed the vulnerability since from what I can tell the publicly available self signed cert was being used for the exploit.

[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

The updater for the open-source editor Notepad++ has installed malware on WINDOWS PCs. The Linux ecosystem doesn't allow for this kind of network attack because of signing.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

np++ isn't on Linux I thought

[-] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

There are quite a lot of packages running it through wine, on AUR, as snap/flatpak, and probably more I didn't see in my cursory search. So the question is does this exploit work on wine I guess.

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