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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

This is a coup

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

I really wish independent journalism existed so you could find out basic facts like "how often does the FBI normally arrest judges?" "Has a judge ever been arrested for obstruction of justice?" "Do they never get arrested inside a courthouse?"

I'm sure Judges sometimes commit crimes, just like everyone else. Are they normally given special deference and not arrested? Do they only get arrested for serious charges, and normally they get special dispensation because of their judge status?

Arresting judges does sound alarming, but without context it's impossible to know just how norm-breaking it is.

For example, if a judge is pulled over and found to be driving drunk, I most definitely would want that judge arrested and charged. Not arresting and charging a judge in that situation sounds like institutional corruption. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens, but I don't know because these journalists aren't doing their damn jobs.

Don't get me wrong, in this case I'm pretty convinced that the Trump people are overstepping their bounds. It seems like a pattern of attacking the judiciary. And, this isn't the judges being arrested for driving drunk or accepting bribes. This is judges being arrested for things related to immigration. Immigration, in particular, is something that the Trump administration is doing completely unlawfully.

But, how can we have any kind of informed dialogue when the standard of reporting is: "One side said 'It's outrageous they arrested a judge', the other side said 'the administration won't accept judges breaking the law.' The judge may have been a democrat."

[-] 10001110101@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Probably because the article is from a business news outlet. I have heard a lawyer talk about the case, saying it was very unusually for her to be arrested for such charges (Leeja Miller I believe; not really a journalist, just a youtuber).

[-] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

First they came for the immigrants, But I said nothing, Because I'm not a filthy immigrant.

Then they came for the protestors, But I said nothing, Because protesters are libtards.

Then they came for the judges and politicians, But I said nothing, Because they are all corrupt and evil.

Then they came for the minorities, But I said nothing, Because they deserve it!

And then they came for me, Because I was a gullible tool.

  • A future MAGAT survivor.
[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

They would never admit it. They would say "and then they came for me, and I have no idea why"

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They wouldn't say "no idea why." They would blame the immigrants.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I blame the "fuck you got mine" mentality that's become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren't equipped for that.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”

[-] admin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I feel it started before and it was like that before covid. I'm gen Z and I remember around 2017 the rise of popularity of songs about "me me me being the #1 gang banger the gangster, them bitches love me, them ni**as hating" among the people in my age group, and it sorta just grew from there.

What I noticed during covid and once TikTok style videos became mainstream was sort of a "normalization" or acceptance of the phenomena mentioned above.

Remember Wall-E were everyone in the future is a fat individualistic human being, connected to a bed on wheels with a screen and everyone seems to be doing their own thing with no resemblance of families, couples, friends, goals?

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Agreed I’m 42 and personally growing up in the late 80s and 90s I feel like Regan and Rush Limbaugh were both a big influence on the situation the country is in now. And honestly, you can go back to Nixon and JFK getting assassinated as the main focal point from when America stopped being America and became more conservative and for the money and for the wealthy.

[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

I think you guys are going to sit and boil.

If you ask me, things should have started burning a few months ago.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I think you’re 100% correct.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, this is a exactly what Trump wants. He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections. All of this is calculated.

[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections.

And the alternative is sit and let ICE blackbag innocents?

The US has the 2nd amendment, which they love so much. ICE should be getting gunned down in the street by this point.

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If I'm not mistaken, a full national declaration of martial law would require not only approval of individual state legislatures, but also the loyalty of the military and the National Guard in every state.

By bypassing laws and regulations, totally disregarding checks and balances now that mechanism is compromised, the bastard need not to declare martial law to spread terror.

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[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

when the fuck do we rise up?

As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

Never.

And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

This was avoidable.

And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.

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[-] supernight52@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*

Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: "Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15."

Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Please remember: the ICE “arrests” are KIDNAPPINGS BY NON-UNIFORMED CIVILIANS. UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

If you see a gang of 4 dudes with beards and guns and jeans and polo shirts … treat it like the kidnapping it is.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

I get your sentiment and feel the same way, but that’s just adding death to the equation. I honestly think that is exactly what they want. If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people. If you’re dead, you can’t to any of that. You can’t defend yourself. The action alone will make you a ‘terrorist’ and therefore justify their actions.

It fucking sucks.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people.

Have you been skipping the news for weeks?

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[-] suite403@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You have access to lawyers???

Not a single person that I'm aware of that got shipped off to El Salvador had a fair trial. This isn't the US you know anymore. You don't get a trial if they don't want you to have one.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago

El Salvador is a death sentence, with a load of abuse on top. Better to break some ICE and be ended, than to live out your final days in a concentration camp.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

America, this is your five alarm fire. If everything else wasn't enough to get you moving, dear God please let this be it.

Get out and protest. Get talking to the other people at those protests. Build your network. You're going to need it for what is coming.

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