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[-] Captain_J@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Wow! I've always wanted a browser that would track everything about me! /s

[-] mdd@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta get me some of that.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do all these dickheads go to a school to learn the same specific hand gestures?

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 19 points 2 weeks ago

I hate when people post hyperpartisan reporting because it makes me do homework. In this case, you made me listen to almost an hour of a three hour podcast with three techbros chatting about techbro crap in techbro ways. You owe me years of life.

Anyway, so the conspicuously missing context here is he's asked if they will let go of the subscription model and go after an ad business model instead and he responds "hopefully not" and clarifies that he thinks the AI differentiator from Google search is that it doesn't feed people ads.

He then transitions into saying that you'd need a super hyperspecialized profile for it to make sense and then maybe it could work but they haven't figured out long term memory well enough for that, which is when he talks about why they'd want to have a browser to build that hyperspecialized profile.

This is my least favorite type of misinfo, too, because he's actually kinda saying what they say he's saying, just out of context. But more importantly, because he says some other shit that is more outrageous, too. For example, when explaining why he thinks the subscription business will grow more than the ad business the way he puts it is that "people see it as hiring someone", so they're more willing to spend, and he ponders "how much do people pay for personal assistants and assistant managers and nannies?" and suggests that they'll provide similar services for cheaper to people who can't afford human help.

Which may not be as clickbaity and I get he finds it positive-on-the-aggregate, but is certainly some cyberpunk dystopia stuff that didn't need the out of context quoting to be a thing.

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for you sacrifice and service (it does sound like, but it is NOT sarcastic)

You owe me years of life.

Best I can do is an upvote and a hearty thank you.

Thank you!

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you!

There is an implication, though, that they intend to collect as much data as possible regardless of which model they use? And in the article, he isn't selling any data, I think. Any mention of that?

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago

To be clear, they ARE building an AI-forward browser and he is very plain about collecting a ton of user info. The way it's presented in context is that they intend to plug it in to their assistant/agent thing and surface relevant stuff to you on searches (which is the potential ad opportunity the article quotes as if it was the sole goal). But yeah, the implication is that they are collecting data regardless, even if the user profile ends up being used to cater AI responses to you specifically, to train models or whatever.

Hearing the guy talk about it I get the impression that he envisions an Apple-like ecosystem where they're constantly ingesting data and you're paying them to have their AI services act as a personal assistant and handle purchases and booking for you directly and so on, on top of anwering queries.

I would rather clip my toenails with a rusty chainsaw, myself, but that seems to be the idea.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

A scholar and a gentleman!

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

We need more people like you, thank you

[-] Kyouki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] KenLin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

I appreciate him saying it upfront. Makes it easy to stay away from all of their products.

[-] calmnchaos@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

In other news, Perplexity has signed a deal with Motorola to have the browser preinstalled on their phones.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thx, for the heads up. The only reason I'm not typing this on a motorola g85 is because I got distracted when I was ordering it. Now I've got to search for a different brand.

[-] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

Companies are so removed from what users want, they only focus on what shareholders want to hear and don't consider that users will hate it.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because there is legal precedent that says shareholders come first.

You can blame Dodge for this. Yes, that Dodge.

[-] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

So to ensure that a company is more likely to be customer focused, rather than shareholder focused, it's likely a good idea to only go for companies not listed on the american stock exchanges?

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Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).

I'm really keen to see when this happens to Tesla, I'm thinking about shorting the stock, it's so vastly overvalued, and there's strong competition and sales are crashing everywhere (because of too much Nazi)

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad, that long-term users still kind of decide the fate of the company (as shareholders at some point realize that their share probably is not worth it).

Yeah, that's really the kicker, isn't it? Legally beholden to the shareholders who demand short term profits forever and ever, risking the loss of long-term customers.

It's a guaranteed death.

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[-] letzlo@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

But then users use it anyway for some reason. Many people care so little.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Most people are unintelligent sacks of meat, not much critical thought about what they do runs through their minds.

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[-] cmrn@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

That’s like a cigarette brand marketing themselves as the most cancer-causing.

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[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

When using my current browser, any guess as to how often I've said to myself "I need a browser that spies on me more"?

[-] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Beep boop, this is your browser speaking. You have stated that you need a browser that spies on you more one (1) times.

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[-] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

What a stupid name for a company.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

And people would voluntarily use this browser ....why?

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Weirder things have happened. Like people using Brave voluntarily.

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[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Why would I use such a browser?

[-] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Because some influencer say you should. Works this way for too many people.

[-] mat@linux.community 5 points 2 weeks ago

The amount of folks I see use Opera GX "gaming browser" because some influencer said so...

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

What the fuck is a gaming browser. Browsers show web pages.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

From what I've seen it has a lil sidebar that lets you limit the resources available to it. Also a load of shortcuts to giveaways and storefronts. It's also hideous, as all gamer stuff should be.

Honestly it gives me more "lowspec" vibes, than "gaming", and there are far better ways to browse on low spec machines.

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still shocked at how many seemingly tech-literate people use and defend Brave because of influencers.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

"Because it really gets you, y'know?"

[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They've partnered with Motorla and probably Samsung to have it pre-installed. And a lot of people stick to the default one.

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[-] postnataldrip@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Srinivas believes that Perplexity’s browser users will be fine with such tracking because the ads should be more relevant to them.

Believes it, or is just spinning it that way?

You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I'd immediately not want it any more.

Enough already.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

You could show me an ad for exactly what I want in that moment and I’d immediately not want it any more.

Depends, if it is an ad for an orbital laser that targets marketing executives it might work on me.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Where is the hacktivism when you need it? These companies need to be gutted from the inside out.

Begin, the AI wars have.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

This is really good information, now I know to avoid their browser like the plague.

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think I read somewhere they want to buy Chrome from Google if they are forced to sell. So not many changes, just switching owners who ultimately do the same thing.

i’m not a Chrome user, so screw both google and perplexity.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

These fuckers are just so delusional and out of touch with reality. Personalized ads my ass. We've been promised those for decades but pretty much all the ads I see on YouTube are from major retail chains with precisely zero relevance to me. They will show the ads of whoever pays for them. Your personal preferences are only relevant when it comes to targeting you with political propaganda.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't fucking want personalized ads no matter how relevant they are to me. I only have so much money to buy stupid materialistic bullshit and once that's gone all an ad can do is make me want something I can't have. Ads are just trying to make you discontent.

They just want you to spend more money in a failed attempt to be happier adding complexity to my life when I'd rather just be content with simplicity. And they work really fucking well on my wife. I automatically distrust anything someone is paying money to show me.

[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I am perplexed at he. Why the hell would I want this?

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