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Me laughing in pacman
"Hello, I would like to -Syu a package." "Can I -Rsc this?"
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Me, I'm old, so I just keep using apt-get, because that's all we had back in the day, and I never bothered to learn what's the big deal about apt. It's just a frontend, isn't it?
Isn't this explained in the manpages for apt(8) and apt-get(8)?
Do people don't read their manuals anymore?
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Nala gang rise up!
Console chiding me every time I use apt-get out of habit because it’s deprecated now…
apt is for like when you want to, and apt get is the other way to get the apt. And then if it doesn't, sudo apt will, or then sudo apt get. Like if you're just doing an apt, and then you also need to apt get, you can.
- You can't just be up there and just doin' a apt like that.
1a. An apt-get is when you
1b. Okay well listen. An apt-get is when you get the
1c. Let me start over
1c-a. The user is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, kernel, that prohibits the kernel from doing, you know, just trying to get the apt. You can't do that.
1c-b. Once the user is in the terminal, he can't be over here and say to the packag, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna apt you out! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that.
1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to apt and then don't get, you have to still apt. You cannot not apt. Does that make any sense?
1c-b(2). You gotta be, typing motion of the command, and then, until you just apt-get it.
It's been a long time since I've needed to use either. Instead I typically use Synaptic Package Manager, Mint's Software Manager, or gdebi. Guess I'm just a filthy casual.
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Apt: get whatever is in the cached package list
Apt-get: lookup the package to see the latest version and get that one
Unless you always apt update, apt-get is the go to choice for modern day Linux
There's also the apt-apt command, who triggers any audiophile to start complaining about mainstream music quality these days
I disagree. According to Debian's own documentation, apt is a newer front-end for your daily CLI updating and installing needs.
It has simplified syntax, and combines the most-used functions and options.
It is not meant for use in scripts, cause the syntax may change between versions.
The dependency-solver in the back-end is identical.
tl/dr:
apt is shorter to type and will have prettier output, starting with Debian 13.
Use apt-get inside scripts.
Uh!? I've been lied to! Editing comment for clarity
My personal experience is that apt-get will absolutely miss packages that apt will capture.
I was actually surprised by that about six months ago and finally switched over to apt after years of apt-get.
That's actually one of the reasons I switched from Debian to Arch.
Dependency resolution shouldn't differ based on which front-end you use.
Debian has dpkg, aptitude, apt-get, apt, synaptic, the Software Center...
Fedora has rpm, dnf, yum. SUSE adds a couple more. I don't get it.
A linux distro should have one package manager, doing different stuff with it should be done via different commands/options inside it.
As a (still) Linux novice, this is something that I noticed with later distributions but never thought about your valid point. I did always wonder why there should be different places to install things in the same OS. It would probably be fine if they handled things the same, but then all you're doing is changing the UI. It never "felt" like they did things the same.
Out of curiosity, can pacman update flatpaks? Or do you still have to update those independent of your package manager?
It can't. I use a very simple script to combine updates and the basics of system maintenance:
#!/usr/bin/env bash
systemctl --failed -q
yay -Pw
sudo pacman -Syu
flatpak update
flatpak uninstall --unused
pacman -Qqnte > ~/.local/share/applications/pkglist.txt
pacman -Qqdtt > ~/.local/share/applications/optdeplist.txt
pacman -Qqem > ~/.local/share/applications/foreignpkglist.txt
pacman -Qtd
pacman -Qm | grep -v yay-bin
sudo find /etc -name *.pac*
yay -Ps | grep Cache
Alias is your friend.
alias install="sudo apt update && sudo apt install -y"
install git
I'd recommend avoiding aliases that conflict with regular commands, and there's a standard Linux command called install. https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/install.1.html
If you're going to always pass the -y flag then I'd add --no-install-recommends too.
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