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[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, that's the nature of mass adoption, is that people you don't like start coming into the community.

This always happens. A community stays intact so long as it stays niche, but once it reaches mass adoption, that community splinters into smaller communities.

The 'Linux community' will eventually cease to exist and will be replaced with communities who use Linux in specific fashions.

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago

who even is that

[+] bisby@lemmy.world -38 points 2 months ago

A youtuber with 5 million followers and 5 billion views, and has won "Streamer of the Year" at the streamer awards in the past.

If you're asking out of genuine curiosity: a youtuber with a lot of influence.

If you're asking to brag how out of touch you are: someone with more influence than you.

[-] giacomo@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago

bro, is it you? are you that streamer?

[-] bisby@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

no. but asmongold, even if you dont like him is one of the larger, more influential people out there. Should he be? Is his content that good? Doesn't matter.

"Who even is that" heavily implies "why should I care" and the answer is: because he has a fanbase of rabid morons incapable of independent thought who will do whatever he says to do. So linux spaces are very likely about to be bombarded with people who hate linux without having ever tried it because asmongold said he didn't like it, or a bunch of people adopting linux.

It also heavily implies "Im proud of the fact that I dont know who this person is." Which is just not impressive. "Taylor Swift? Who is that?" indicates you are living under a rock, not that you are cool. And aside from pewdiepie, asmongold is probably one of the youtube gamer names people know.

[-] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I'm proud of the fact I don't know who that is and even more proud that I don't care if anyone thinks that is not impressive. I hate that I learned who poodiepie is and have yet to meet any fans that weren't mentally challenged. It is a waste of space in my brain and I would happily live under a rock if it meant I didn't have to know about the existance of vapid, self-centered, so-called "youtube celebrities". They add nothing to this world of any value and wouldn't be missed.

[-] bisby@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I could see not caring. but actively being proud of it is weird. And asmongold has a lot in common with pewdiepie in that his fans skew heavily towards being morons who will just follow what he says.

And there are plenty of people who are well known who are terrible people. Knowledge isn't a limited resource, you don't have to forget something to know that a person is awful. So there is no value in not knowing it.

[-] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I believe there is value in it. By not knowing about some negative role model like these youtube personalities, when my nephews are talking about them I can be more believably disinterested if I don't know who they are. When they attempt to explain the person my continued disinterest helps them realize the person they follow isn't that great, since they rarely do great things and my nephews might realize that as they search for reasons why they watch them. If I use my time to learn about more positive role models and activities instead, it's easier to shift their opinions to something better. I can't just say "X person sucks, don't watch them" since that usually only further entrenches them in watching the drivel.

an example is when I pulled out my raspberry pi, plugged it into their tv and started playing retrogames, ignoring them while they were talking about some LTT video because i thought it was boring. it wasn't long before they dropped their conversation and were focused on what i was doing, as I played various games on it. now they seem more interested in learning how to do that, instead of mindlessly watching some idiot.

i know that is a weak argument. i know i can also come up with examples of times my ignorance has been detrimental. like regarding idiotic political figures whom i should have learned more about, to help inform people of why they are bad, instead of sticking my head in the sand until things got a lot worse.

so i see and understand your point that it's better to not be ignorant about internet celebrities and awful people. i still feel it is better to spend time focusing on better things, hoping that my chosen interests can outweigh my choice to ignore idiots. in the long run it all comes down to opinions i suppose.

[-] CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

https://socialblade.com/youtube/handle/asmontv says there's over thousand youtube channels with more subscribers than him. He might well be large & influential in his niche, but it's unlikely that people outaide his niche will know who he is. Do you think you've heard of 1,000 biggest youtubers whose channels aren't about things you're interested in?

Pewdiepie, by comparison, is the 12th most subscribed channel on youtube. I think you're underestimating how much more famous that makes him with the general public.

[-] bisby@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

With the "general public" yes. Within the computing and gaming space, he's pretty influential. I realize that "linuxmemes" isn't about gaming, so there are a lot of non-gamers here but he is a well known name in his niche, which is PC gaming, which is a very relevant niche. It's not like he's one of the 1000 youtubers and runs a makeup channel.

Yes, he isn't universally well known. But given how well known he is in the niche, and how relevant the niche is, and therefore how likely his niche is to translate into linux users or linux haters, it's extremely relevant to the discussion.

And I'm not saying "everyone should know who Asmongold is!" anyway. I'm merely saying "he's not irrelevant, and bragging about being out of touch doesn't make you cool".

[-] CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I don't think anyone but you ever said he was irrelevant, or bragged about not knowing who he was. You're extracting a ton of meaning to a short comment which I just don't think is actually there

[-] littleomid@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago

Imagine comparing Taylor Swift to asmongold lol

[-] giacomo@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

people know who Taylor Swift is tho

[-] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I've had enough year of the linux desktop, can we put it away now please?

[-] aleq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Didn't know this guy before but it really doesn't matter if he was literally Hitler and decides to start using Linux. It's an operating system not a club, it really makes no difference. Maybe slightly more moderation for people on linux communities on mainstream platforms (e.g. reddit).

[-] Nuxleio@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Sometimes it's better when people don't use Linux.

[-] Nuxleio@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Assmonghould & his followers deserve everything not linux this world has to offer.

So that they can suffer more.

Appropriately far away from me such that I cannot smell them.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

casualty replies to self in agreement

[-] Nuxleio@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

i love my own opinions!

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Casualty? What happened to the poor fella?

[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

why is his shirt not white i reamber only seeibg him in white shirts

[-] Krafting@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't know this guy but I'd definitely watch Gardiner Bryant's reaction to his video if he goes through with this ahah

[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Head cinema: a meme that goes „you look mad easy to draw“ followed by the offender holding up a scribble that captures 100% of the face features of the offendee

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 months ago

Isn't this guy a communist?

I can't actually remember and I'm both curious and lazy

[-] memphis@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

Generally he just says whatever will spark the most controversy and clicks/interactions.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

That sounds like most people online

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 months ago

His followers are mostly rightwing and gobble up any comment he makes in that direction. I think he himself is a psychopath. And I mean that in the most generous way one could use that description. He doesn't care about anything. Not himself and certainly not about other people. What little empathy he does have is learned.

Like when he called for the death of Palestinians I genuinely believe that he didn't know why that's bad. He learned that by backlash.

He does advocate for general basic income. So that would put him in the leftist corner. But he is quick to generate hate towards groups of people. That can mostly be seen in his comment section.

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