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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

“Defaults are the only thing that matter,” he said, “in terms of changing user behavior.” He called the idea that it’s easy to switch “bogus.”

Leta see if the feds remember that quote in the next Microsoft antitrust hearing.

[-] flumph@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

Doesn't the fact that every Windows PC ships with Edge and yet Chrome has 70% market share on desktop make a case against the idea that "defaults are everything"?

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

PCs had been shipping with Chrome as the default for years due to agreements with OEMs.

ALSO, things did get bad enough for a few years that the general public did at least partly realize the IE sucked and that was part of the initial migration.

But now Edge is aggressively placed and it is becoming more prevalent despite the general public knowing zero advantages to it over Chrome.

[-] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] ripcord@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Starting in 2020, Edge Browser is built on top of Chromium.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/download-the-new-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium-0f4a3dd7-55df-60f5-739f-00010dba52cf

Google’s browser dominance is so pervasive, that Microsoft had to adopt Google’s browser technology because users demanded access to add-ons and user experiences akin to Chrome.

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

It’s interesting to read about these 2 giant companies facing each other.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But over hours of contentious testimony from Nadella during the landmark US v. Google antitrust trial, the reason for that inferiority became the question of the day.

Nadella, in a dark blue suit, took the stand early Monday morning after a few minutes of scheduling updates and a delay long enough that Judge Amit Mehta asked jokingly, “Mr.

(Google’s lead counsel, John Schmidtlein, later joked that he wished his law firm could count “marginally profitable” in the billions of dollars, as Nadella did with Bing.

Nadella even said he was willing to hide the Bing brand in Apple users’ search engines and respect any of the company’s privacy wishes, so urgent was his need to get more data at any cost.

(Nadella, as he did so often during the cross-examination, nodded and said “correct” and “that sounds right.”) In every case, Schmidtlein argued, Google simply out-invested and out-executed Microsoft.

(The witness after Nadella is former Neeva CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy, who has also said his search engine was crushed in part because overcoming Google’s default status was so difficult.)


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