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Luigi Mangione attorneys seek dismissal of state murder case (abcnews.go.com)

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Defense attorneys for alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione said Thursday in a new court filing that the murder indictment a state grand jury returned against him should be dismissed due to double jeopardy and other alleged violations.

The indictment should be dismissed "because concurrent state and federal prosecutions violate the Double Jeopardy Clause, the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause and Mr. Mangione's constitutional rights against self-incrimination, to meaningfully defend himself, to a fair and impartial jury and to the effective assistance of counsel," defense attorneys wrote.

Defense attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo said in the filing that "prosecutorial one-upmanship" resulted in Mangione facing state and federal charges in New York and separate charges in Pennsylvania.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago

Mangione’s attorneys also sought to suppress statements he made to authorities in Altoona, Pennsylvania, where he was arrested after a five-day manhunt and where “officers failed to provide him with Miranda warnings,” according Thursday's court filing.

It's crazy how everyone has known for fucking decades that cops are idiots who only "solve" cases thru presumed innocence and planting evidence to support it...

Yet neither of our two political parties have ever tried to fix it.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

well if they did that who would make the school lunch burritos in compton that feeds our nations white kids?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unconstitutional, eh?

- Trump lawyer while rubbing their hands and salivating

[-] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 13 points 1 week ago

But they always quit a few weeks in.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Or get moved to UN Ambassador.

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago

Has be considered running for office? Then they can't convict him for fear of looking politically biased. That's how that works, right?

[-] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yore onto something, it's a strategy that's never failed in America

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Think that only covers crimes like sedition, treason, fraud and serial rape.

[-] Alaik@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Well only if he ran as Republican, but they would rather suck CEO cock.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

TBH he could be a Republican for all we know. He didn't exactly go after lobbyists or legislators who created and protect the healthcare industry, just went out and shot a guy working within it.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 points 1 week ago

But they convicted trump……

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

But didn't punish him so it was meaningless

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 week ago

Probably should have said that instead then, rather than talking about not convicting.

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[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 37 points 1 week ago

Plus there's a documentary and a musical about it. That alone jeopardizes the public opinion of him.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

Not to mention every other aid on podcasts is about this case and the way they are edited it's literally "Hes guilty. Why even hold the trial?"

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

You guys have been getting podcast ads about it? That’s wild, I haven’t got any at all. But I’m in California, maybe they’re only being played closer to NYC?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Its fucking nuts. Sometimes there will be 3 in a row. It's fucking obvious they are poisoning the well out here.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Sneak in some Jury nullification ads. Watch as they suddenly get yeeted

[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I've found the Brave internet browser to be extremely effective at blocking ads.

[-] swab148@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Librewolf on desktop, Ironfox on mobile

[-] ericatty@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

What are the ads for? Who's paying for them? Is NY and fed buying these ads? Or a PAC? Or someone selling insurance?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Its always an ad for a podcast about the case. But the ad is edited in a way to immediately dismiss any notion of innocence.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Free Luigi. Also compensate him for wrongful prosecution.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Imprison Luigi. No exceptions to the rule of law, not even for internet celebrities.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Luigi is innocent.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm sure he was just holding that Glock with a custom part he designed and printed himself and $20,000 cash for a friend. Just went on a little shopping trip in New York, sight seeing. /s

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[-] 3laws@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Rule of law? You are fucking kidding right?

Here's the Constitution for you lil bruv:

Under due process, you will not be convicted of a crime unless the prosecutor proves that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Luigi, as far as the law understands via the [still to be taken] decision of a jury, is innocent.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yes. We're on the exact same page here. He should face trial for his crimes.

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[-] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago

IIRC, "delay, decline, depose" were in memos from UHC. Does that mean UHC is liable for the same charges for any paying customers who died, while being delayed, denied and deposed? Corporations are people as well, after all.

[-] junimond@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Free Luigi. Sofar, we dont even know if he actually did it.

[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

we dont even know if he actually did it.

That's kind of the point of the trial. Of course I don't trust he'll be given a fair one. The USA isn't really keen on that when they really want to punish someone for something.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I mean I don't think the defending attorney would seek a continuance.

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

It's an extremely weak case, nearly impossible to win, and they all know it. So they're going to make it the biggest legal circus since the OJ trial.

They'll do what they did in the OJ and Casey Anthony trials - keep them in prison while they drag the entire out as long as possible, and that way when they finally get set free in a couple of years, at least they served some time. Casey Anthony served over 3 years in jail, which is probably what she would have served for accidental manslaughter/ negligent homicide, which is probably what she was actually guilty of.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They’ve also pointed to passages of Mangione’s writings, which described Mangione’s deepening fixation on UnitedHealthcare and an increasing malice over the corporation’s purported greed.

Purported greed? Does any grown-ass adult sincerely doubt that corporations are greedy? Are we so far gone that the media can't even say that without hedging? What are they going to do, sue? Good luck proving that they're not greedy since public companies have a legal obligation to make as much money as possible.

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[-] laserm@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Under the Double Sovereignty doctrine, the Double Jeopardy clause doesn't apply in this case tho. Hence, you can be charged for the same offense twice in both stage and federal court.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know, I thought that too at one point, but if the defendant's lawyer is trying to use double jeopardy to get this incredibly high profile, publicly scrutinized case thrown out, we should just sit down, shut up, and listen to the professionals

[-] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

It’s likely just a tactic to set him up for an appeal later. The only reason you can appeal a case is if you can show that you weren’t given a fair trial.

So this is his lawyers going “you’re probably going to be railroaded and found guilty, so let’s at least ensure you have as many avenues for appeal as possible. If we force the courts to officially put it into record that you have to defend both trials at the same time, you can argue that your attorneys weren’t able to effectively do so, and therefore your constitutional right to an attorney was violated.”

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[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I read that, and then I read that it's more complicated than we might assume it is, so that's not always true. Obviously, the defense feels the same.

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