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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 39 points 1 week ago

If you make the 1st Amendment illegal, the rest of the Constitution cannot be far behind.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

if? people have already been blackbagged for their speech. this is just encoding something already in effect.

[-] when@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

5 Democrats are cosponsors:

  • Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
  • Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
  • Joseph Morrell - NY-25
  • Donald Davis - NC-1
  • Laura Gillen - NY-4

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.

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[-] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡

[-] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

This will probably be used to target protestors and organizers of political movements.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the boycott itself can't reasonably be prosecuted. But it can be used to suppress discussion (e.g. organization, coordination) of said boycott.

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[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ding ding ding.

This is how they "lawfully" throw "dissidents" into the gulag.

Remember...most of what Hitler did was technically legal and above-board. Because they controlled the laws and shaped them as they saw fit.

[-] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Wrong think will be punished

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

the state wants to lock you up, figures out you don't drink coca cola, You're on trial for not buying Coca-Cola, or Nestle, or never tried Sabras hummus... straight to jail.

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[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.

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[-] nickiwest@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

And the USSC has definitely ruled that money is equivalent to speech. So boycott activity is logically covered under this Amendment.

If this law passes, a lot of people are going to have a rough year or two until they can get a case all the way to the Supreme Court.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Hey big shoutout to all the Redditors and Lemmy guys who told me that we can have no restrictions on free speech because if we restrict Nazis they will restrict us if they ever gain power.

Welp, here ya go...like I told you...and many of you blocked and/or banned me for saying it. Ironic.

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

You'll never easily get through to those people. They hold idealism over material reality in many cases.

The best way I've found to get even some of them to at least stop and think for a minute is to ask if preventing people from doing things like:

  1. Screaming slurs next to a preschool
  2. Publishing deliberately false information to ruin someone's reputation
  3. Doxxing someone who was mean to you

...is justified. If they say yes, then maybe unlimited free speech isn't perfect, and restricting Nazis could be justified. If they say no, then you'll know they're a lost cause.

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[-] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago
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[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

You remember that first amendment thing we used to have here?

Yeah... neither does our government

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.

(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

America can't be taken seriously anymore.

It's a good thing Russia gave half of a wakeup call to the rest of the free world to arm the fuck up 3 years ago. We know America can't be relied on for anything anymore.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Rich people spending money is free speech.

Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

AKA the usual.

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

narrator: it didn't sound legal because it wasn't.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

How do you enforce anti boycott, how do you force someone to spend their money?

Dont get me wrong Ill know they will try again, but wow.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

If you’re an American paying taxes you can’t boycott Israel. It doesn’t even need to be a law.

Seems like they’re trying to turn boycott in to a dirty word.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.

Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.

Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.

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[-] Splenetic@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?

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[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

Incremental steps into the police state.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

We are in a police state. This is more.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

How tf do you ban boycotts? What if I just don't want to consoom all the time?

[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Probably that is a threat for anyone spreading boycott movement in social media. So if you post McDonald are shit, bad for the health and do not consume them, you are ok. If you post don't go to McDonald because they support a genocide by Israel, then it is another story.

And so the fear begins. Its a first step.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Nazi America

Brought to you by millions of fascist fucks, including your own family and friends.

Buy a gun.

[-] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How is this to enforced. Is there to be a Israeli mandated amount of product that you would need to buy.

[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Vague laws can be abused easier.

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[-] RidderSport@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Any government that tells you what you can complain about

Is by definition a Totalerian government

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Well, we now know what death cult is behind the misery of literally the entire world.

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[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 week ago

Sounds kinda DEI to me

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