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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 162 points 1 month ago

Cool story, Bill. Who did you donate to? Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing and coopting government for years? Bill isn't innocent in all this, it's just a good time to blame Elon. Don't get me wrong, Elon 100% deserves it, but that doesn't mean that Bill isn't playing the PR game here.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago

Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing

The problem is that billionaires should not exist but come on. $80 billion already donated. $7 Billion more just for Africa. Hundreds of millions in malaria research.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/11/17/bill-gates-foundation-pledges-7-billion-to-support-africa-health-and-agriculture/

Could he do more? Sure. But attacking someone who is doing a little because he isn't doing more doesn't seem fair.

Years ago Elon said he was disappointed when he met Bill Gates because Gates only wanted to talk about philanthropy and climate.

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 54 points 1 month ago

The problem is that the theft begins by simply becoming a billionaire in the first place. You don't get to be one by playing nice and not exploiting a lot of people and rules along the way. Sure the government could be blamed some for not having enough regulations in place to prevent/stop that, but capitalism ensures that businesses exploit any available loophole possible to maximize profit, otherwise you're a bad business.

While I can respect a lot of those philanthropic efforts, those should not be his decisions alone to make. That money should've been paid into taxes and distributed in agreed upon ways. $7 Billion dollars to Africa is just great, but it could do a lot of help here, too. I have no issues with sending $7B to Africa, but that sure seems like something the people should agree upon first, through some sort of national aid, and not as an effort to spare the conscience of an aging billionaire.

Fuck all billionaires. Every. Last. One. Forever.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

The problem is that the theft begins by simply becoming a billionaire in the first place.

That's why that was my first sentence!

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 11 points 1 month ago

The problem is that billionaires should not exist but come on.

Was your first point. I expanded on it by calling out that it is specifically theft and then going further to illustrate that he was using that theft to make personal choices about how that money should be spent, compounding the reasons I find this distasteful.

Forgiving it simply because it's philanthropy plays exactly into their narrative. Don't buy it! Don't defend billionaires to any extent.

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[-] Chastity2323@midwest.social 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I can respect a lot of those philanthropic efforts, those should not be his decisions alone to make. That money should've been paid into taxes and distributed in agreed upon ways.

As a capitalist, all of his solutions are capitalist. His efforts to slow climate change are primarily technological, with a focus on unproven horseshit like carbon capture rather than proven improvements like better, less car centric urban planning and reducing meat intake. He would never even consider an strategy of economic degrowth to fight climate change even though available evidence shows that that is exactly what we need.

[-] arrow74@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think we're well past the chance of urban designing our way out of the climate collapse.

We need to make major changes in our consumption to even make a dent, but I say our best shot is cold fusion and carbon capture. Those are obvious longshots.

We've created a runaway greenhouse gas effect. Even if we cut emissions to 0 temperatures will continue to climb.

Obviously cutting emissions to 0 would give us more time to fix this mess though

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[-] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

Gates has history of lawsuits against open source projects. And he actively donates against any real systemic change. For example he has invested heavily in carbon capture technology which is useless to making impact to climate change.

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago

Imagine how much extra money the countries of the world would have if they didnt have to pay for microsoft licenses and stuff like dat

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[-] the_q@lemm.ee 80 points 1 month ago

Remember there are no good billionaires. No amount of "good" they do will ever be enough.

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[-] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 65 points 4 weeks ago

I got downvoted on Lemmy the other day because I said that I prefer Bill Gates to Musk.

Maybe there are things about Gates I don't know. Maybe he is actually quite an evil person; I don't know. But he does at least spend billions of dollars helping vulnerable people, right? And Bill's stances on global politics are far more sensible than those of Musk.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 42 points 4 weeks ago

There are no good billionaires. But I must agree that Bill Gates cannot be compared to Elon Musk. Bill has done evil, but his evil doesn't compare to what Elon Musk is doing right now

[-] delgato@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The massive cock slobbering that Warren Buffet got at his Woodstock of Capitalism last week was nauseating. All the media were fawning over how he’s still a small-town Nebraska bumpkin. I have to hand it to him he crafted his image perfectly as a “good billionaire” too.

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

I think it's a silly to waste one's time struggling over deciding which one is worse. They're both billionaires who spend hundreds of millions of dollars undermining the public interest. Gates just cares more about his PR than Musk.

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[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

I mean Gates donated his own money to help the poorest people in the world. Elon spent his money to become president so he could steal money from the poor at people in the world.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Gates donated his money to avoid taxes and start a big pharma company.

Also Bill Gates comment is about USAID an imperialistic tool which has killed many millions of children. The irony of this statement is palpable.

[-] caboose2006@lemm.ee 26 points 4 weeks ago

Nuance is lost on a lot of people on here. All billionaires bad therefore no billionaire is preferred. While I agree there's no good billionaire there's a spectrum of bad. Like would I rather break my pelvis or break my legs? Both are bad but one is preferable.

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[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago
[-] internetistrash@lemmy.world 49 points 4 weeks ago

I cannot be the only one here who sees tiny hands.

[-] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Fuck, I can't unsee it now.

[-] galoisghost@aussie.zone 40 points 1 month ago

So are you Bill. You utter piece of shit.

Fuck all Billionaires

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

"I haven't killed as many kids in so short a timeframe," is the implication here.

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I’m out of the loop.

I’m not down with hoarding of wealth or the shit software he’s made, but what are the allegations against Gates? (The legit ones, not the “he’s putting microchips in Covid vaccines” shit)

[-] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 month ago

Gates has history of lawsuits against open source projects. And he actively donates against any real systemic change. For example he has invested heavily in carbon capture technology which is useless to making impact to climate change.

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[-] brisk@aussie.zone 37 points 4 weeks ago

How many children died because Bill Gates lobbied for the Oxford Covid-19 vaccine to be patented?

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

This. Thank you.

That was a villain level move from Gates. The behaviour of the rich nations towards the LICs over covid vaccines was absolutely shameful and destroyed the illusion of Gates' benevolence.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Idk how many people have died from Covid 19 vax? I keep taking it and my cock is huge, no other side effects

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 4 weeks ago

Gates is always whitewashing his own future or past actions when he does something philanthropic tbh

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[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

I really do think it would be fun to compile all of the billionaires in the world and just have them fight to the death in a gladiator kind of rig. Would be awesome.

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Kat and Kropp get in an argument over the war as they rest from an hour’s worth of drill (occasioned by Tjaden’s not saluting a major properly). Kat believes the war would be over if leaders gave all the participants “the same grub and the same pay,” as he says in a rhyme. Kropp believes the leaders of each country should fight each other in an arena to settle the war; the “wrong” people currently do the fighting.

Erich Maria Remarque - All Quiet on the Western Front 1929

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[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

I was promised Bill Gates would give me 5G’s with a vaccine.

[-] seeigel@feddit.org 27 points 4 weeks ago

No need for envy. He owns enough farmland that he can easily top Musk by rising prices to let many more children starve to death.

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[-] Siresly@lemm.ee 21 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Not just the poorest and not just children.

Not just Musk. https://bdsmovement.net/microsoft

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 19 points 4 weeks ago

so this is what he meant by eliminated world hunger, by killing them directly or indirectly.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago

In the sense that it's two Spider-Men pointing at each other

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[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Elon is a Nazi

[-] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago

Sounds more like someone has seen the world turning on the worthless shit that are billionaires NOT that someone has seen the light and wants to make the world a better place...

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 20 points 4 weeks ago

Credit where credit is due, Bill Gates has been putting his money where his mouth is for decades now.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

We don't don't need princes or kings doing PR. If we taxed billionaires out of existence we could fund that and so much more. This guy doesn't get to make up for whatever he was doing on Epstein's plane, at least not without coming clean first.

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[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, TBF that foundation has done a lot of good.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Pretty sure he doesn't care

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